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Is Jemima 'unusable'?

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butternut234 · 05/07/2010 21:13

I love the name Jemima, but have only recently found out it's considered 'unusable' and 'derogatory' in the US. I don't live in the US, but I do live overseas, so a kid of ours could end up living anywhere. Don't want her to be teased or have a name she is ashamed of or feels could offend people. Am I worrying unnecessarily? Really took me by surprise when I first discovered this, so not sure how widespread a view it is, or if it's just the problem with googling!

Thanks in advance!

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LowLevelWhinging · 05/07/2010 21:17

do it do it do it

Jemima

I reeeeally wanted a Jemima but DP vetoed.

No idea about connotations in other countries sorry.

LowLevelWhinging · 05/07/2010 21:17

oh and lovely nicknames Jem/Mim

purpleturtle · 05/07/2010 21:18

DS2 would have been Jemimah. My concern would have been MIL's overuse of Puddleduck to follow, but given she calls any little girl Jemima Puddleduck anyway...

almostinvisiblewoman · 05/07/2010 21:50

love it . its a great name .dd4 would have been it but have a niece called this so couldn't use it.

valiumSingleton · 05/07/2010 23:12

I love it, but I think Americans do consider it unusable. I don't quite understand why it is worse than say Ben, as in Uncle Ben (the rice) but for some reason, to use Jemima in the US is a whole can of worms.

We could say well that's stupid, but Randy is unusable here and no American could convince us otherwise I bet.

She could always call herself just 'Jemma' if she finds herself in the US

LowLevelWhinging · 05/07/2010 23:14

Why is it unusable? What are the connotations?

valiumSingleton · 05/07/2010 23:15

Em, ask Mathanxiety!

valiumSingleton · 05/07/2010 23:17

The term "Aunt Jemima" is sometimes used colloquially as a female version of the derogatory label "Uncle Tom". In this context, the slang term "Aunt Jemima" falls within the "Mammy archetype", and refers to a friendly black woman who is perceived as obsequiously servile or acting in, or protective of, the interests of whites.[2] The 1950s television show Beulah came under fire for depicting a "mammy"-like black maid and cook who was somewhat reminiscent of Aunt Jemima. Today, the terms "Beulah" and "Aunt Jemima" are regarded as more or less interchangeable as terms of disparagement in popular discourse.[citation needed]

That was from wiki

LowLevelWhinging · 05/07/2010 23:19

Aaaaah, I see! Never heard that one.

mathanxiety · 06/07/2010 00:30

And there's the Aunt Jemima brand syrup and other foods, showing a 'mammy' with her hair tied up in a kitchen-maid's scarfy thing, smiling, cooking -- here's an older version. The modern label shows a slimmer woman minus the scarf. But the association with patronising attitudes towards black women remains.

I love the name, though. I wouldn't say it's unusable, but it's not used in the African American community much.

diddl · 06/07/2010 08:14

I think it´s a lovely name.

Good enough for Jemima Goldsmith-wonder if she gets scoffed at for it?

MarthaQuest · 06/07/2010 14:43

a 'jemima' was also Victorian slang for a prostitute/loose woman.

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