Names and class

[LuciaRose]

Please can you give me some examples of names you consider middle class and names you consider upper class - thanks.

There are more than two Irish people on MN

skidoodle- I take your point about the relevance of class (or anything else) being dependent on the namer.

I still think it is a silly question though as names move through the classes frequently and something that sounded 'upper class' can be described as 'chavvy' within 10 or 15 years. Therefore, if one were to pick a name because it sounded upper class, for example, it may be that the namer would be v disappointed when it proves not to be so in 10 years time.
It is also often v subjective as to which names are upper/ middle class/ 'chavvy', etc, so I just don't think the information gained by asking this question on mn is likely to be v useful!
I don't have any problem with honesty at all

it's useful if what you want to know is what some people on MN think are upper class and middle class names.

a straw poll of a section of an online community...

The Queen's children/grandchildren[how upper class do you want?]
Anne
Beatrice
Sarah
Eugenie
Edward
Andrew
Charles
William
Harry

not to mention Elizabeth and Philip!!

Not a Hugo or Araminta in sight

Fair enough skidoodle- you're right there!!

Are the Queen and her descendants necessarily 'upper class'...what makes her this, her status, her money, her accent, what?

As you see, I struggle with the concept of class... I'm German and, despite living in the UK for 18 years, still don't get the class thing... and the concept of certain names 'belonging' to a certain class......

Irishlassee, NO I don't want to be outed. I have the right to protect my anonymity and obviously it's clear that I want to do that. I have in the past given out other redherrings to try and be less identifiable. Obviously I've failed.

You've unmasked me, Scooby doo style. Was that fun? I notice that Irishlassee is a one-off name-change, purely for the purpose of outing me. I notice you are keen to protect your own anonymity now, by changing your regular name. Do you make a habit of outing people? Do you feel it's your duty?

I always knew my circumstances of leaving an abusive English man and returning to Ireland were particularly identifiable especially as I have also posted on the special needs board about my son and his being on the spectrum.

I have to assume you are somebody I know in real life. That really is quite sickening. Whoever you are, you're a coward and you need to grow up.

And so you think you have the right to out me? That means every single post I've ever made can be traced right back to me. That is precisely what I did not want, and that is the reason why I have thrown out various red herrings. How nasty that you would decide to out me because I make you cringe!

I didn't start this thread, and I give my opinion on many names. I don't start threads about their names, and unlike a lot of posters I really don't care if people dislike them.

You know who I am, and yet you're still hiding behind anonymity yourself. If you're so sure that I am the sad, sick, weird one here, then tell me who you are?

So 'Irishlassee', you're not brave enough to say who you are, or even tell me your usual screen name then.

If I'm so 'sad' though, why would you care if I figured out who you are?

It was a really petty, cowardly and bitchy thing to do.....and you're going to come back here with your usual screen name. All the honesty has to be mine. That's nice for you.

No Lockets, don't worry. Ages ago, because my circumstances are particularly identifiable I put out some fixed red herrings. I thought that that and very regular name changes would protect my anonymity, but I was wrong! I haven't lied about my children's names for a long time now, but you remembered it and I 'ran' with the red herring. Stupid perhaps, but It was my Granddad's name and it was what I wanted to call my son, I have also lied about the ages of my children, and the age gap between them and the town I live in, and number of siblings I have. I thought that would mean I was safe to talk about the things that really mattered, like the nightmare I left behind in England and getting back on my feet here after that. But I guess Ireland is a small place, and there just aren't that many people who left an abusive relationship in England and returned to Ireland. Somebody I know in real life saw fit to out me, because they think I am mean about 'chav' names. I have been in the past but I have reeled that right in. Whoever it is is a really sad case.