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Mathilde or Thérèse?

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Lilyyyy · 31/07/2025 21:16

We’re expecting our fifth baby – a girl – very soon, and we’re still completely stuck between two names: Mathilde and Thérèse. I’m honestly starting to panic a little because the due date is very soon, and we just can’t seem to settle on one.
Our other children are Théodore (Théo), Adeline, Frédéric (Freddy), and Arthur. We’re a French-American/Irishfamily currently living in England, but we have family in both England and France (and the US), and there’s a good chance we’ll move to France at some point in the next few years. Our surname is French, and all of our children’s first names have a distinctly French feel. We'd really like to keep that naming style consistent with this baby as well.
Until now, our children’s first names were chosen because we simply loved them (none are honour names) but their middle names are.
(Théo and Freddy have middle names from their grandfathers, Arthur has his father’s name, Adeline’s middle name honours both grandmothers (they happen to share the same name)). For this baby, we’d like to follow that tradition with the middle name.
We're currently choosing between:
Thérèse Elizabeth - would honour both of my grandmothers and echoes my own full name (Elizabeth Theresa), but that’s also what makes it feel too close to me. AND it then would be the only meaningful first name of our children plus then there would be more names that honourable my side of the family, which he dosen’t mind but I do.

Thérèse Elise - would create a better balance between our families (Elise is my husbands grandmother), and we both like how it sounds, but the meaningful first name again.

Mathilde Elizabeth - has no strong ties to either side, but it dosen’t feel completely right an my husband prefers the Name Thérèse.

Mathilde Elise - feels kinda soft (maybe too soft?) and just dosen’t feel so good. Plus then there would be more names from my husbands side…

My husband really likes Thérèse. I agree that it’s a strong name, and I do love the sound of it, but I can’t shake the feeling that it’s too close to my own name, and I’m worried it might feel uneven that only one of our children ends up with a direct honour name as their first name. He genuinely doesn’t mind and would be very relaxed about it, but I do. It just doesn’t feel quite balanced, and I’d like to be fair.
Mathilde, on the other hand, doesn’t have a family connection, and we both really like it. It fits the sibling set well, works nicely in French and English. It also avoids all the complications Thérèse brings up for me. My husband still prefers Thérèse slightly, but he agrees Mathilde is a lovely name too. I honestly find them equally beautiful.
So we’re stuck.
– Which name fits best with the sibling names?
– Would it be strange if one child has a meaningful first name, while the others only have them as middles?
– Is the imbalance between the two sides of the family something that matters long-term, or am I overthinking it?- Probably…
And finally while we’re mostly deciding between these two names, we’re not totally closed off to other ideas. If anyone has a suggestion that fits our style. I’d love to hear it.
Thanks so much if you’ve made it this far (Sorry for such a kong text). We really need fresh eyes and honest opinions at this point!😅

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ELS20 · 31/07/2025 22:10

Surely Mathilde Elizabeth is perfect? So far all the grandparents and the father (your DH) have been honoured via middle name but the mother (you) hasn’t. You say your name is Elizabeth so I think Mathilde Elizabeth is completes the sets perfectly.

Moreteaandchocolate · 31/07/2025 22:22

I would choose Mathilde - I think it goes well with your other children’s names - which all fit so well with UK naming trends while also having links to your heritage. Plus Mathilde is less likely to have pronunciation errors -I read Thérèse as Te-Reese (so how it sounds without the accents) at first so I don’t know if this would bother you if others in the UK did the same?

However if you love Thérèse best then I think you’re overthinking the family connection side of things - as long as each child knows why their name is special I think it’s more important to choose the name you love than worry about it being equal in terms of who you honour more / which child has the most meaningful name. One of my children has family links for both first and middle names, while the others have middle names with links to heritage (but not family) and first names that we just loved - it’s never been an issue - they all know their names are special for different reasons.

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 31/07/2025 23:01

Therese is a confusing name so I would choose Mathilde (although I prefer Matilda)

ALunchbox · 31/07/2025 23:15

Mathilde.
Thérèse is a very old fashioned name in France (and the butt of jokes).

2ndTimeAroundMum · 31/07/2025 23:19

Thérèse is very old fashioned op. Mathilde is lovely though

AdaColeman · 31/07/2025 23:25

Of the two names, I much prefer Mathilde, sweet while they are little and cool and classy when they are grown up.
Thérèse seems very dated, and can be quite harsh sounding in some English pronunciations.

Mathilde Elizabeth is an absolutely beautiful name.

JillyGiraffe · 01/08/2025 04:28

I much prefer Mathilde Elizabeth.
It honours you, plus I think Therese is quite similar to Theodore.
If my second child was a girl, he might have been Matilda nn Tilly - it’s a lovely name!

pamshortsbrokenbothherlegs · 01/08/2025 10:36

Love Mathilde, it's sweet but elegant as a pp has said. Much better than Matilda imo.

Thérèse feels dated, not in a hip way.

MissyB1 · 01/08/2025 10:38

I much ptefer Therese but im biased - its my middle name 😊
Mathilde is over used in my opinion.

Eenameenadeeka · 01/08/2025 11:00

We have very similar taste, and I prefer Mathilde. I think Mathilde Elizabeth is beautiful! I think it suits the siblings names perfectly too.

girlmum6 · 01/08/2025 11:30

Definitely Mathilde. So pretty!

BootballJoy · 01/08/2025 14:03

Mathilde Thérèse or Mathilde Elizabeth

mathanxiety · 01/08/2025 14:11

I would choose Mathilde Elisabeth or Mathilde Therese.

Therese is a name that gets horribly mangled in non-Francophone countries. Terry isn't a nice nickname but that's what she'd be faced with.

If you both like Mathilde, and one of you has reservations about Therese, (even though I think your worries are unfounded), then go with that.

SixteenClovesOfGarlic · 01/08/2025 14:14

How are they both pronounced?

LucasBuck · 01/08/2025 14:59

I slightly prefer the sound of Therese (sorry can’t do accents on phone),possibly because I love English nickname Tess and I think it works fine in the sibset. I really don’t think it matters much that it’s the only honour name for a first name amongst the siblings - especially as it’s a nod to your middle name as much as your Grandmothers first name.

Since it honours two female relatives, to me it really makes sense to include Therese somewhere, more than the other names -however Mathilde Therese seems like the obvious compromise option? You have a first name you feel more comfortable with, and a middle name that your husbands prefers and which honours both your name and Grandma’s.

luckylavender · 01/08/2025 15:06

Mathilde. Thérèse seems very old lady to me

theunbreakablecleopatrajones · 01/08/2025 21:03

Therese

There are just too many Matildas here (also everyone will mistake it for Matilda, which will be annoying)

Therese Elizabeth -
Elise is just a shortform of Elizabeth so it covers both bases

Tess and Tessa are sweet short forms too - I have a niece Tessa who is growing up in France

Maxorias · 01/08/2025 22:40

If I heard of a family with a baby named Thérèse I'd immediately assume old money, military, traditional catholic family. Which is not necessarily "bad", but may or may not align with the image you want to project of your family.

And, yes, Thérèse is also more dated/old-fashioned whereas Mathilde is a bit more timeless.

And yet... I also find Mathilde a bit more bland/boring, so might opt for Thérèse despite all of the above...!

If none of the combinations completely feel right, would it work to make Thérèse the middle name and look for another first name ?

Calliopespa · 02/08/2025 17:15

theunbreakablecleopatrajones · 01/08/2025 21:03

Therese

There are just too many Matildas here (also everyone will mistake it for Matilda, which will be annoying)

Therese Elizabeth -
Elise is just a shortform of Elizabeth so it covers both bases

Tess and Tessa are sweet short forms too - I have a niece Tessa who is growing up in France

I was thinking this about Elise as well: its a gentle nod to Elizabeth but leaves her with her own name.

Its also my favourite out of all the names suggested and, in my opinion, sits best with your other names which all have a very English-sounding version to use.

Mathilde and Therese are both a little unnatural to pronounce in English and quite "heavy-sounding" to me. They both make me think of a stout middle aged lady. Nothing wrong with older ladies when one becomes one, but its nice to at least start out sounding like light-footed young girl! I think the English Matilda is a much prettier version, though very used at the moment.

I would personally go for Elise Mathilde.

Then you have Theo, Adeline, Freddy, Arthur and Elise which are all quite manageable in English as well.

AuxArmesCitoyens · 03/08/2025 22:06

Mathilde is in her forties. Thérèse is knocking 90.

StrictlySequinsandStiIettos · 03/08/2025 22:12

Elise is lovely.
I also like Tess.

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Aimee

(Sorry, cannot do accents but you know where they are!)

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