ONS 2023…

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Any idea when it will come out 👀

December 2024 according to the ONS release calendar (but it does say provisional, so if the 2022 data is anything to go by expect it to be pushed back several times sigh )

@BoleynMemories13 now says due 5 December ! We have a date!

Amazing! I’ve been checking frequently. A FOI request months ago said Summer 2024, but that came and went with nothing.

🤞🏻 They keep to it.

Hopefully a sign that they're getting back on an even keal after the ridiculous delay with the 2022 data. 5th December will only be 2-4 months later than they had been releasing them in recent years, which was usually August-October of the following year.

Still quite out of date though, considering some of those "babies" are nearly 2. I definitely think many will assume it to be the 2024 data. I remember back in the day when they use to release the data for each year in the December of that year, a week or so before Christmas, and any babies not born or registered yet that year were counted on the next year's data. That was back in the 00s.

Yeah. I think it makes sense to do that, rather than have them a whole year late… or even publish them February… surely one month is enough to collate all the data 😂. 12 months is excessesive!

especially the 2022 ONS, that was nearly 18 months late.

Is it still short as 5th December?

I can't see a date on their website. I wondered if I was looking in the wrong place

Yes, here’s the link to the release calendar on the ONS site. 9:30am!! www.ons.gov.uk/releases/babynamesinenglandandwales2023

Oh, thanks. It's exciting!

Woop. It’s online

Still saying this for me 😩 Frantically refreshing!!

Do you want any plot spoilers?

maybe try these…
www.ons.gov.uk/file?uri=/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/livebirths/datasets/babynamesenglandandwalesbabynamesstatisticsboys/2023/boysnames2023.xlsx

Actually try this one

www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/livebirths/bulletins/babynamesenglandandwales/2023

It's working for me! Here's the ONS analysis, the girls dataset and the boys dataset. Some surprises for the boys in the top hundred. I thought Noah would have a few more years on top before Muhammad became the most popular name. I'd called Muhammad at #1 in 2027 (for no reason other than vibes!). Also surprised to see Jax in the top hundred, and that Bodhi is still rising. I see Bodhi as a micro trend from 5 years ago. No real surprises for girls, except Nevaeh being top hundred, but the actual births really isn't that high.

I was surprised about the top three girls being so stagnant… also shocked at Muhammad taken over top place so soon.

Because they have most babies names with that specific spelling and there's no other popular alternative spelling. Ila, Amalia and Oliwia aren't as preferred as other Isla, Amelia and Olivia. I'm sure the real top 1 has multiple different spellings.

The next spelling of ‘Muhammad’ is in the top 30. So I would say it’s still a popular alternative, unlike the different spellings of the three you’ve suggested.

I was referring to girl list. Yeah, Muhammad is really popular, it's just that enough people choose Muhammad spelling to make it top 1. Last year, it might have been top 1 if all spellings were combined.

I'm just saying, if spellings were combined top 1 for girls would probably be something else, so girls top 3 is stagnating because these 3 are names without popular enough alternative spellings to detract new parents from using these 3.

I'm not at all surprised that Luca is now top 10 and Jude top 20. Most of the big risers don't surprise me in the slightest. I was right about Hazel and Autumn gate crashing the top 100 too!

What the hell is going on with Nevaeh? I thought that tacky 2000s trend had died a death long ago. Why the hell are so many jumping on the "it's heaven backwards" bandwagon again?! I did not see that one coming.

Regarding Muhammad, I've just said in another thread that it's quite deceptive as, although it's clearly the most common name currently registered for boys, so many of them don't actually go by their first name as there will be more senior Muhammads in the family. So it doesn't feel like the number 1 name as it's not a name you hear so often on children. Obviously it's still very popular, but it doesn't feel like the number 1 name to me.

I thought Margot would be higher as I know several baby Margot’s!

There were 46 Renesmaes born last year which is surprising., didn’t think Twilight was still popular.

I think it will rise again in the 2024. It's still one of the highest climbers in the top 100 over the past 10 years, rising by over 600 places in that time. Whilst it was on the rise big time anyway, Margot Robbie's role of Barbie has raised the profile of the name even more. I still don't think we've seen the peak of this one's rise.

How did I miss this! Swear we've only just had one, maybe that was the delay or maybe I'm getting old!
Off for a good look, if Jude hasn't leapt up the charts I'll eat my hat

Just had a look and my youngests name doesn't appear anywhere on the full list so less than 3 (if any) registered. It's odd as I have met a couple of other children with that name as well now.

That seems odd. These might be stupid questions, but we're the babies 100% born in 2023, with the names spelt the exact same way and for babies of the same sex?

They don't register if less than 3 registered in the year. My daughter wasn't born last year but the name has never appeared on the full list so it must still be a very unusual name.

Oh, I thought you meant they were all born in 2023 and it should have been part of the data. My bad.