How would you pronounce Zana ?

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My friend assumed people would pronounce her child’s name Zana like Zah-nah as in Suzanna but several people have pronounced it as Zar-na

So what point are you trying to make?

But aa doesn't work as we don't know if it's ay, ah etc. I wouldn't have expected people to know what I meant by putting Zaana. To me that just sounds like I'm meaning Zanna.

So what is the difference between. “All of this” and “r conveys a long vowel”?

R doesn't convey a long vowel.
I understand some people think it does.

So explain to me why you think the vowel sounds in the words cat and cart are different?

To rhyme with Anna

You are missing the words 'to me'. This is why you are getting everyone's backs up, @rosesareredvioletsareblueaimverytiredandsoareyou , because you are presenting something which is true for you as something which is a universal truth.

Zana is Zana (short).
They can change the a sound/emphasis by adding different letters.

Z - anna

anna with a z in front

An elogated a never needs the letter r.

🙄

It's the same vowel sound but cart has an r sound after the vowel and cat doesn't.

…you are aware that other cultures/countries/ethnicities/regions and so on have different accents and dialects to you right?

People don’t have to add letters to things because you wilfully choose to ignore them. 100% you would pronounce my name because it has the ‘r/are/(c)ar sound that we are discussing without any extra letters. But it’s my name, which I was christened with and it’s up to my parents and now me how it’s pronounced, not someone who has decided that the pronounciationnis incorrect because it doesn’t fit in with their view. I could never tell an Irish person that Maebh should actually have a b sound rather than a v sound.

The world isn’t according to you.

Regardless of what you think, “r” is being used by the writers to convey a long vowel.

You know full well that it is not being used to convey a rolled “r” sound.

What if the writers had said “I am going to use 💩to convey a long vowel”, then written “Z 💩na”, b💩th and gir💩ffe. Would that work better for you?

I said earlier to her that I thought she was pranking the rest of us. But I’m starting to think she possibly is that arrogant/ignorant.

I'm not ignoring anything though, folk are adding a letter to make it read differently than it is written. 🫣

I just can’t.
(Pronounced carn’t).

I know what it's being used for.
It doesn't convey that though. 🫣

The whole thread is about how people do not know how to read a name as it is written.

Can you explain how to describe, in writing, the various possible pronunciations of the name without adding, removing or substituting any letters?

That is quite simply not so.

If I were to transcribe any speaker saying cat and cart I would use a different phonetic symbol for the 2 vowel sounds.

If they speak with a rhotic accent that would be included after the vowel.

But absolutely no English speaker would say cat and cart with the same vowel sound.

They’re only adding it to show you how we pronounce it. People are tried a million ways to show you that’s the pronunciation that comes with a particular accent.

People have accents and dialects. The ‘r’ is to try and convey the way we talk. That’s it.
mobile is adding an r to anything, it’s just how we talk!! People talk differently and it’s really fucking cool that we do. But none of us have told you that you’re wrong for your pronunciation but you are hell bent on telling those of us that speak differently to you how wrong we are!!

Would you tell a Welsh, Irish or Scottish person they’re wrong? How about someone from an English-speaking country that isn’t the U.K? Or is it purely because it’s a southern accent?

Thank you. It's quite nice to be compared to a highly intelligent animal.
Alas, it's not the insult you thought it was.