Court blocks baby name..... thoughts.....

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Just been reading this article about a Brazilian couple and curious to know what others think

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13847419/amp/parents-banned-naming-baby-historical-figure-bullying-fears.html

Should the courts be able to step in and block parents from using certain names?

@SunnieShine great username 👏

Define proper, words evolve @SuziQuinto
Would you say
"My friend has an Aga in her kitchen" or
"My friend has a Aktiebolaget Gasaccumulator cooker in her kitchen"?
Do you say "gif" or "graphics interchange format"?

Are you saying to anyone called "Archie" that they should change it to Archibald? Why is Archie not a proper name according to you ?

I think you're going too far and should let Archie be Archie and Sunny/ Sonny.

Live and let live.

In many countries with approved lists, foreigners have leeway to use names common in their country.

There isn’t an approved list in Norway, but you cannot give surnames as first names, and you cannot give names which would do the child a disservice. Examples of those that you are not allowed to give your child are royal titles, swear words and deceases.

Fun fact: In Norway the name Harry has almost completely fallen out of use because it now is commonly used to describe someone who is uncultured. Similar to chav in England, but not quite the same.

Words evolve! No shit!
Anyway, cookers apart, give a child a proper name, they won't be a child forever. That's all.

ps Archie isn't another name for "son" or "boy child" it's actually a name!

Now that is a fun fact!

Agree.

Germany has long had rules laws about naming babies. I presume you wouldn't get away with Adolf Hitler.

I live in a country that had lists. Actual foreigners with foreign passports got leeway although sometimes you had to prove it was a name on the approved list in your own country, but mixed couples or second generation naturalised didn't get that option. It's normally partly an anti-foreigner you-will-assimilate move to stop there being too many Mohammeds.

Maybe not, but plenty of people name their daughters "Elle"

True. It's French, though. There's no "nice one, elle, come here elle" in popular usage.
However, at least it's recognisable as a name.
Conversely, in my neighbourhood there seem to be a number of dogs called Bella.
Not a related point really, just musing about dogs being fur babies.

I don't like Sonny myself, but don't think it's terrible. Whoever said about Girlie, there are plenty of names meaning 'little girl' in various languages (Nina, Wiebke, etc.) that are used in those languages.

German registrars can refuse to register a name if it would subject the child to ridicule, if it's a common object or if it doesn't unambiguously identify the child's sex (not sure if that has changed with the advent of self-ID) - so an Alex or a Kim (for example) might need a clearly boys' or girls' middle name. I remember a court case where a registrar had refused to register a girl as Marie Christin as those can both be boys' names (ignoring the fact that Marie/Maria only ever get used as middle/second-in-double-barrel names for boys).

Edit: one of our dd's middle names is a common name, but using an unconventional spelling (it was after someone) and we were half-expecting to have to provide evidence of some kind when we registered her. Similarly her first name, as a non-German form of a name that exists in Germany. But no problems at all. I think it can depend very much on the registrar.

Anyone mentioned Elon Musk and Grimes' son yet? Clearly having an IQ the size of a planet doesn't mean you are immune to episodes of abject stoopidity....

Hah!

Reminds me of Chorlton and the Wheelies (one for the youngsters there).

"I hate that drraggon"

"Eeeh, She's a loavelly little ol' lady".

Every year National Records of Scotland produce a complete list of all names given to babies the past year.

https://www.nrscotland.gov.uk/statistics-and-data/statistics/statistics-by-theme/vital-events/names/babies-first-names/babies-first-names-2023

There are some very.... unusual choices on the full list spreadsheet. There's no excuse for calling a baby Tygalily, Siennah-Reign, Lyzzy-Rose, Rj, Ox, Chyll or Banksy.

Karen?

This reminds me of a Finnish friend who said that boys names ending in “y” aren’t used much because they are considered lower class (I have a Henry).

Here in Sweden we have a few rules. Or at least we did last time we checked. The name has to:

1. identify the sex
2. not subject the child to ridicule
3. can't have a double barrelled surname unless royalty

and my personal favourite

1. can't have more letters than letter spaces on a standard tax office form

Also second names here are just as important as first. It's just as common for someone to use their second name as their first, so people normally ask.

Yeah we need an approved list. There are people trying to outdo their mates by calling their children the worst names ever . Hardly fair on the kids really .

Aha selective names (ie. Ones you like don't count 😂)
@SuziQuinto why didn't you just day lol

Yeah the same in Sweden - the tax office (who act as the registrar) get the right to veto names

Ones they have vetoed include

• Lucifer
• Troll
• Ikea
• Anarkia
• Superfastjellyfish
• Tomhet (means emptiness)
• Skrot (Scrap)
• Alkis (slang for alcoholic - like wino)

You actually said "proper" but don't let accuracy bother thou

You @SuziQuinto

I don’t think suziequinto realises that Sonny is a recognisable boys name that was very popular in the 60’s, 70’s and 80’s.