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Makingdo · 18/04/2008 08:43

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Makingdo · 18/04/2008 13:08

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Dragonbutter · 18/04/2008 13:08

...it could affect career opportunities.

Makingdo · 18/04/2008 13:08

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Dragonbutter · 18/04/2008 13:18

I do like the name Mason, and if it's your favourite name then you should absolutely go for it. I'm not trying to put you off, just giving you a heads up on possible negatives IYKWIM.
Just bear it in mind that for those who haven't lived a life in scotland sheltered from the religious nonsense that you have been spared, it may be an issue. But it's their issue not yours.

Makingdo · 18/04/2008 13:31

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AitchTwoOhelicopterfraek · 18/04/2008 15:13

i think a person called mason would find it more difficult to be taken seriously in their career in the west of scotland. how you can consider a jesuit name and a masonic one is a bit beyond me, tbh.

Makingdo · 18/04/2008 15:25

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wem · 18/04/2008 15:28

I went to school with an Ayla, pronounced eye-la. She never had a problem with it being mispronounced.

crumpet · 18/04/2008 15:36

Never heard Isla pronounced eezla/is-la. Have only ever heard it pronounced eye-la.

Were the sites you saw British?

crumpet · 18/04/2008 15:37

I read clan of the cave bear in my teens and my abiding memory is the sheer amount of rogering those cave dwellers got up to

Makingdo · 18/04/2008 15:42

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crumpet · 18/04/2008 15:45

Yes, I remember we were all very impressed at the time!

AitchTwoOhelicopterfraek · 18/04/2008 17:55

okay, it's not really a matter of opinion though so much as a fact. if as an adult your son travels to the west of scotland he will not be able to tell anyone his name without comment, that's all.

perhaps he'll be the type who'll revel in the attention and won't get sick of people chuckling about it? perhaps he'll never travel to the west of scotland, who knows? i don't approve of religious bigotry but it does exist, for sure, so someone in this part of the country wouldn't saddle their child with a name with that resonance.
even, believe me, if the people he meets aren't bigots they will comment on it. but it is a localised issue, definitely, so as long as he doesn't come here he'll not know about it.

Makingdo · 18/04/2008 17:59

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AitchTwoOhelicopterfraek · 18/04/2008 18:21

i think you've kinda missed the point of what i was saying, but good luck.

Dragonbutter · 18/04/2008 19:46

Aitch, Is it more of a west coast thing then? I was aware of it growing up in south west scotland.

Makingdo · 18/04/2008 19:57

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AitchTwoOhelicopterfraek · 18/04/2008 20:38

of course it would count as discrimination, but that wouldn't mean it mightn't happen. there are still law firms where there's no point applying if you went to a catholic school etc.

anyway that is not really my point, as i suspected you did miss it.

all i'm saying is that you would be calling your child a name that would not pass without comment from ANYONE in the west of scotland, bigoted or not. i'm not bigoted in the slightest but if i met someone called Mason i'd say something probably because it would be so unusual.

not something offensive, god knows, more likely something along the lines of 'i bet that's tough going round here'. but in truth they'd probably have heard it from Every Single Person that they'd met that morning and Every Single Person that they would meet that night. it would be unbearable and that's what would make their lives difficult. not religious bigotry itself, but the fact that the name resonates of religious bigotry up here.

also many people would make the assumption that his parents were bigots and that he had been brought up to believe in bigotry. only an INTOLERABLE bigot would name their child that up here. (although i appreciate your boy would have an english accent so that wouldn't necessarily be the assumption.

i can't think of a perfect equivalent but if your surname was Mosely i'd advise against calling your child Oswald for much the same reasons. you could say 'i like the name and i refuse to change it just because of intolerance etc' and you could bring up the nicest lad in the world but people would still raise an eyebrow and comment on it.

anyway, as i say it's unlikely to come up anywhere but the west of scotland so as long as he never wanted to come here i'm sure it wouldn't be a burden. it may be that your rellies have raised an eyebrow but they are reluctant to do more than that. i'm just telling you because you asked for honesty.

AitchTwoOhelicopterfraek · 18/04/2008 20:44

oh, and re the discrimination, he might also find that some people would LOVE him because of his name. but i doubt they'd be the kind of people you'd want him to be hanging about with.

expatinscotland · 18/04/2008 20:46

'okay, it's not really a matter of opinion though so much as a fact. if as an adult your son travels to the west of scotland he will not be able to tell anyone his name without comment, that's all. '

As someone who lives in the West of Scotland, I agree with Aitch.

How about Struan for a boy?

We have a girl name sorted out, no boy name, though. That's cuz it's gonna be another girl, of course .

expatinscotland · 18/04/2008 20:47

But then, I find 'occupational' names naff and American, myself.

expatinscotland · 18/04/2008 20:52

'I have family in the west of scotland and friends in kintail, i have visited lots whom know i will call the baby mason if its a boy and have not had any comments at all.'

People here would not comment. To your face.

And that goes for family, too.

AitchTwoOhelicopterfraek · 18/04/2008 21:20

struan's a nice name, expat, you should put it on your list Just In Case. your girls would ADORE a little brother i think.

expatinscotland · 18/04/2008 21:22

NO! They are getting a Muireann Kathleen and that is is that!

It is not worth it to ask DH for boys' names. They are all: James, Stuart, Ian, etc.

His elder brother is called Moray, after the place. I do like that. But it's taken .