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Islwyn?

36 replies

mrswoody10 · 23/04/2024 15:12

Wanting to hear people's thoughts on Islwyn (boy). It's Welsh and was my Grandad's name. Pronounced iss-le-win. I've never heard anyone mention it before, let me know if you know any!

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LydiaTomos · 23/04/2024 15:17

It's a nice name. I think the youngest Islwyn I know is in his 60s, I had a couple of great uncles called Islwyn. Probably due a comeback. (I'm in north west Wales).

I'm not sure how to write the pronunciation, but it only has two syllables.

mrswoody10 · 23/04/2024 15:20

oh is it maybe izzle-win? thanks for the correction! He actually died before I was born, but my Dad (his son but not born in wales) always pronounced it iss-le-win.

Not sure we are brave enough to go for it but it will definitely be a middle name if not

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spiderlight · 23/04/2024 15:28

It's quite an old-man name and very tricky to pronounce - if you're not in a Welsh-speaking area, he'll spend his entire life correcting people. The closest I can get to it phonetically is ISS-looyn.

ScubaDivingSpiderMonkey · 23/04/2024 15:31

I would have guessed pronunciation as isle-win. And been wrong.

WildRosesForCathy · 23/04/2024 15:33

My friends Dad is called Islwyn, to my none welsh speaking ears they pronounce it ISS (as in hiss) loin (as in tenderloin).

GogLais · 23/04/2024 15:37

@mrswoody10 , it's 2 syllables. ˈɪslʊɨn
Is (ees) means under, Llwyn is shrub.
It's the name of a mountain and could be a place name.
I link it with author Islwyn Ffowc Elis - Wikipedia

usernother · 23/04/2024 15:38

ScubaDivingSpiderMonkey · 23/04/2024 15:31

I would have guessed pronunciation as isle-win. And been wrong.

Me too.

Lochroy · 23/04/2024 15:42

I assumed istle-win with the istle being the same as thistle.

The other isle-win I read as isle like an island isle with a silent s?

Ilovegoldies · 23/04/2024 15:45

Is-loin is about the closest pronunciation you can write. The pp nailed it. Its not strictly a 'loin' sound though. Its so hard to put into writing though.

NewWater · 23/04/2024 15:49

It's lovely,

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PastorCarrBonarra · 23/04/2024 15:51

My uni friend’s stepdad was called this. Iss-loyn is the nearest I can get to what his wife and my friend called him.

It’s a constituency as well, I recall it coming up in General Election coverage and it always makes me think of uni days, happily. So it’s a thumbs up from me.

ThatTimeIKnewFamousPeople · 23/04/2024 15:52

Is-loin. I also know some (north Wales) and agree it's a lovely name.

Sorry but I think if you have to ask how it's pronounced, you should probably use another name

Bestcurryever · 23/04/2024 15:57

If you live in Wales (especially mid or North), then go for it! If but, I'd be a bit more cautious.

I actually really like it though (am Welsh)

mrswoody10 · 23/04/2024 15:58

thanks all. Yes, I think it will be a middle name rather than first for some of the reasons others have outlined!

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Wafflefudge · 23/04/2024 16:01

If you go on YouTube there is a national library of Wales video about the author Islwyn Ffowc Elis by Rheinallt Llwyd. Just after the 1 minute mark he pronounces the name if you want to hear the pronunciation.
It is a old man's name as mentioned but probably due a come back. I would be cautious that it might be difficult for none welsh speakers to pronounce correctly though.

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TallulahBetty · 23/04/2024 16:22

I know 3, all are in their 70s. Which might not bother you

TheCultureHusks · 23/04/2024 16:23

I know one. It’s Iss- loin, pretty much, although writing the exact lwyn pronunciation is quite hard. Agree you should listen to it being said on that interview.

it’s very old fashioned, although I like it. Like calling him Gilbert or Roland. Or something like Stanley or all the other now-fashionable old man names, but this one isn’t !

TheCultureHusks · 23/04/2024 16:24

Idris, Iestyn, Ieuan would all be easier for non-Welsh speakers

Wafflefudge · 23/04/2024 16:25

I would say it's more like is lieu in
Rather than is-loin just incase you start saying it like this as a few people have mentioned it as it is similar but it's not correct.

nbee84 · 23/04/2024 16:27

I didn't know it was a name - I know it as the borough that my parents live in South Wales.

TheCultureHusks · 23/04/2024 16:29

The ‘oi’ in the ‘loin’ bit has a kind of a different, rounded feel to it, like you’re halfway on the way to saying ‘w’ instead.