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Are there any "normal" names that feel forced for contrived to you?

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hcarter8 · 20/02/2024 11:29

I know this isn't logical, but some arguably "normal" perfectly fine names just sound slightly awkward to me because they sound abit contrived. I don't mean names that are creative or modern in origin (e.g Everleigh, Jayden). I'm talking about names that feel reserved for fictional characters or historical figures, or feel as if the parents got the idea from a "100 unique baby names for your new addition" list.
Examples for me would be Calliope, Octavia, Cordelia and Prudence.

I just cringe a little inside when I hear those names on a real living person. I'm fully aware that i need to touch grass but am I alone in this weirdness?

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Newsenmum · 20/02/2024 13:10

Whenever I hear Ottilie, although it also sounds beautiful.

Onelife2024 · 20/02/2024 13:12

I agree that some names sound pretentious to me, even though they’re so pretty. They will probably sound different and less “over the top” to me over time as more people use them though.

DifferentAlgebra · 20/02/2024 13:19

SallyWD · 20/02/2024 13:05

I think because it's not only about what you like, you have to consider the child who has to live with the name. Persephone, for example, is beautiful but a child is going to struggle to say it and write it for many years. Then there's also the fact that they will stand out with a name like that, whilst most kids want to blend in. My son has an unusual but beautiful name from his father's culture and he told me how much hates it because it's weird and different. We really thought he'd love the name because we love it so much. We now use an anglicised version of the name which he's happy with. I think some parents are too focused on what their child's name says about them (the parents) and don't think about names a child will want to live with. I do think I'd feel a bit pretentious if I used that name like that.

But of course a name choice is all about the parents, their taste, culture of origin, range of reference etc — it can’t be otherwise, unless we give a temporary, childhood/family moniker and the child chooses their own adult name at a certain age.

‘George’ is just as much a signal of parental personality, taste, sense of themselves and their place in the world etc as ‘Persephone’.

Heartbreaktuna · 20/02/2024 13:20

I agree. For me it's anything that's awkward to say, too many syllables, difficult to get your mouth around etc.

Alldoke · 20/02/2024 13:29

SallyWD · 20/02/2024 13:05

I think because it's not only about what you like, you have to consider the child who has to live with the name. Persephone, for example, is beautiful but a child is going to struggle to say it and write it for many years. Then there's also the fact that they will stand out with a name like that, whilst most kids want to blend in. My son has an unusual but beautiful name from his father's culture and he told me how much hates it because it's weird and different. We really thought he'd love the name because we love it so much. We now use an anglicised version of the name which he's happy with. I think some parents are too focused on what their child's name says about them (the parents) and don't think about names a child will want to live with. I do think I'd feel a bit pretentious if I used that name like that.

Yes I agree with this!

GingerLiberalFeminist · 20/02/2024 13:33

I do tend to feel that way about Ophelia.

I know a Cordelia irl and she is quite well to do.

The long name thing is an eye opener, we have a Felicity and goodness knows how long it will take her to write her name 😅

MrsSamR · 20/02/2024 13:46

Meh. It's horses for courses in my book. I have two daughters with Shakespearean names because I love Shakespeare and I love the names and they suit the girls perfectly. One has been mentioned above a few times and always gets a lot of stick on here for being pretentious. Yet no one would bat an eyelid at a girl named Beatrice or Juliet or Miranda. I agree with some of the PPs and conversely find it incredibly odd when someone gives their child a dull, bog standard name of which there are hundreds. Like of all the names in the world that's the best you could come up with?? But really each to their own. Also for those of you worrying about children with pretentious, difficult to spell names, my daughter is 3 and a half and can write her name so I think it's fine.

RenoDakota · 20/02/2024 13:55

Newsenmum · 20/02/2024 13:10

Whenever I hear Ottilie, although it also sounds beautiful.

I always think the frothing adulation of the name Ottilie started when some wannabe-posh mum-influencer (since disgraced, can't remember the details) had one.

Shame that it became ubiquitous because it IS a pretty name.

HemlockSoup · 20/02/2024 14:27

Shetlands · 20/02/2024 12:07

😂
It always amuses me that the aristocrats and upper classes who give their children these names usually invent nicknames to call them instead. For example, Peregrine Cavendish, Duke of Devonshire has always been called 'Stoker' by his family.

Other nicknames I know of as replacements for their actual rather pompous names are Plum, Toots and Lala.

Stoker sounds much easier to live with!

Has there ever been a name more toffish than Peregrine Cavendish?

Sounds like he should be gambling until dawn and ravishing every young milkmaid within a 10 mile radius.

greendaisie · 20/02/2024 14:31

I'd much rather meet a little Calliope than yet another Olivia, Evie or Isabella.

This.

Names are meant to identify us and there are such beautiful, normal and memorable names out there, such as Calliope, Cordelia etc.

What I dislike are overused names that become trendy for a few years and then fall out of fashion because everyone tired of them and they then sound dated. See Evie, Olivia or Oliver.

Cesarina · 20/02/2024 14:46

These names may or may not be the kind you mean, but I find pretentious any girls' names being those of a US state, e.g. Dakota or Montana.....
And any girls' names being hyphenated, with the second name being Mae, e.g. Molly-Mae, etc, etc......

Alldoke · 20/02/2024 15:50

greendaisie · 20/02/2024 14:31

I'd much rather meet a little Calliope than yet another Olivia, Evie or Isabella.

This.

Names are meant to identify us and there are such beautiful, normal and memorable names out there, such as Calliope, Cordelia etc.

What I dislike are overused names that become trendy for a few years and then fall out of fashion because everyone tired of them and they then sound dated. See Evie, Olivia or Oliver.

But what do you think little Calliope would prefer to be called? I wouldn’t use Evie or Olivia either, but there are lots of other less pretentious names that don’t make life difficult for your child.

greendaisie · 20/02/2024 16:16

But what do you think little Calliope would prefer to be called?

She'd be absolutely happy to be called Calliope nicknamed Callie. It's a beautiful classy name that will withstand any fashion trends and will make her be easily identified!

I have always hated having a popular 1970s name and wished my parents had given me a more interesting and more memorable name.

Also, in today's increasingly global environment children are exposed to way more names than we did when we were young.

TheBirdintheCave · 20/02/2024 16:17

@Alldoke So would your suggestion be that we only have a predetermined list of names to pick from like a number of other countries do?

greendaisie · 20/02/2024 16:19

Persephone, for example, is beautiful but a child is going to struggle to say it and write it for many years

No, once in Reception and having learned to write, it will not take years to learn to write Persephone. It's no more difficult than, say Catherine, Seraphina or any other longish name.

ReadtheReviews · 20/02/2024 16:21

Ottilie

Seems very over the top frilly. Either a two year old or a ninety year old.

Alldoke · 20/02/2024 16:21

TheBirdintheCave · 20/02/2024 16:17

@Alldoke So would your suggestion be that we only have a predetermined list of names to pick from like a number of other countries do?

Yes that’s exactly what I said isn’t it 🙄

I’m just pointing out that not every child enjoys having a pretentious name, and perhaps parents should consider this when naming them, rather than trying to boost themselves in some way. Calliope isn’t actually a great example as you can shorten it to Callie (pp proves my point with that), but Persephone for instance likely wouldn’t be easy to grow up with.

Alldoke · 20/02/2024 16:23

greendaisie · 20/02/2024 16:16

But what do you think little Calliope would prefer to be called?

She'd be absolutely happy to be called Calliope nicknamed Callie. It's a beautiful classy name that will withstand any fashion trends and will make her be easily identified!

I have always hated having a popular 1970s name and wished my parents had given me a more interesting and more memorable name.

Also, in today's increasingly global environment children are exposed to way more names than we did when we were young.

Yes exactly, she would shorten it to Callie, to fit in. I actually love Callie. And I’m not talking about unusual names, there’s a difference between names outside the top 100 and these forced names op is talking about.

greendaisie · 20/02/2024 16:23

I’m just pointing out that not every child enjoys having a pretentious name

Could you please define 'pretentious'?!

Personally I think Calliope (and many other names) are simply beautiful, classy ans timeless. And yes, slightly unusual.

But 'pretentious'? Pretending to be what exactly?!

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 20/02/2024 16:24

I love the 'classical' names. And multi-syllables gives your child lots of choice for nick names and shortenings, whereas the single-syllable names don't leave much scope. And every child struggles to spell their name at first, even if they're called 'George' - it's just a collection of letters.

Mind you, none of my lot have particularly complicated names, except youngest daughter whose name is a capital city.

ARMSDOWN · 20/02/2024 16:25

I live Calliope but mainly because I loved the character in Grey's Anatomy.

Shetlands · 20/02/2024 16:26

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 20/02/2024 16:24

I love the 'classical' names. And multi-syllables gives your child lots of choice for nick names and shortenings, whereas the single-syllable names don't leave much scope. And every child struggles to spell their name at first, even if they're called 'George' - it's just a collection of letters.

Mind you, none of my lot have particularly complicated names, except youngest daughter whose name is a capital city.

You called your daughter Ouagadougou? 😉

Alldoke · 20/02/2024 16:26

greendaisie · 20/02/2024 16:23

I’m just pointing out that not every child enjoys having a pretentious name

Could you please define 'pretentious'?!

Personally I think Calliope (and many other names) are simply beautiful, classy ans timeless. And yes, slightly unusual.

But 'pretentious'? Pretending to be what exactly?!

I mean Google defines it for you, but here you go.
Pretentious - attempting to impress by affecting greater importance or merit than is actually possessed.
As I said before, Calliope isn’t really a good example. Ophelia is actually, and Ottilie as mentioned by pp’s. Both have these are now overused too so don’t even have unusual going for them

AlltheFs · 20/02/2024 16:28

GingerLiberalFeminist · 20/02/2024 13:33

I do tend to feel that way about Ophelia.

I know a Cordelia irl and she is quite well to do.

The long name thing is an eye opener, we have a Felicity and goodness knows how long it will take her to write her name 😅

My Felicity has cracked her first name and surname at just before 4 and a year before school so don’t worry. It’s actually quite easy!

I haven’t broached her two middle names yet as she is Felicity Chloe Margaret and that’s quite a lot! 😂

JamSandle · 20/02/2024 16:30

One person's common is another person's classic.

One person's unique is another person's weird.