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Double-barreled surname: hyphen or not?

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PoppingTomorrow · 05/02/2024 12:48

My baby will have both my partner's surname and mine.

A relative insists that it will be complicated for my child to have a non-hyphenated double-barreled surname for the purposes of official forms.

Has anyone with 2 non-hyphenated surnames experienced this?

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GaroTheMushroom · 05/02/2024 12:51

Yes. I gave my daughter two surnames no hyphen and regret it as I’ve split with her father and literally no one uses mine, they only call her under his name. They don’t ever use both and certainly never just mine. I’ve been told written down mine appears as a middle name hence no one using it. Mine has been erased and He won’t let me change it. Fine if that doesn’t you though that people will only use one.

MonkeyPuddle · 05/02/2024 12:53

My kids have a double barrelled surname, no hyphens. Not sure why I didn’t put a hyphen in but it’s made no difference for us.
If I’m giving the kids names I just say it’s ‘Balonz Smith separate word Jones’

KittyFantastica · 05/02/2024 12:58

My maiden name was double barrelled and I couldn't wait to get rid of it because of all the issues I had. Half my documents had a hyphen and half of them didn't. A lot of the time, forms weren't long enough to fit my name on, with or without the hyphen. Hardly anyone ever used the first of my second names and, when I worked in a school, despite both names being on my name tag, I became known as 'Miss Final Surname' within a week. It got too much correcting everyone.

If you don't intend for it to be shortened, definitely hyphenate. But be aware many people will ignore it anyway for whatever is more convenient for themselves.

TallulahBetty · 05/02/2024 13:01

Depends what the names are, IMO. If they are obviously both surnames (Balonz Smith Jones) that could be less confusing than if one of the names could be a middle name (Balonz James Jones).

NameChange30 · 05/02/2024 13:01

I have two surnames, no hyphen, and so do my kids. Same as the entire population of Spain. No issues.

MaloneMeadow · 05/02/2024 13:04

In my experience unless they’re hyphenated only one surname actually gets used. If you want them both then they need a hyphen

GaroTheMushroom · 05/02/2024 13:05

TallulahBetty · 05/02/2024 13:01

Depends what the names are, IMO. If they are obviously both surnames (Balonz Smith Jones) that could be less confusing than if one of the names could be a middle name (Balonz James Jones).

My surnames a male first name so not in my experience and my child is female so it’s strange anyone would think it’s a middle name it’s quite obviously a male name but I think there is a (new?) Tradition of giving children mums surname as a middle name so could be that.

Nicebloomers · 05/02/2024 13:21

MaloneMeadow · 05/02/2024 13:04

In my experience unless they’re hyphenated only one surname actually gets used. If you want them both then they need a hyphen

This.

my kids have hyphenated double barrel names. Never had any issues.

theduchessofspork · 05/02/2024 13:28

I work with a no hyphen person and she does remind you on documents (because it bothers her to be hyphenated I guess), but it doesn’t seem to cause problems. Certainly everyone uses both names

KirstenBlest · 05/02/2024 15:46

Hyphenated. I know lots of people with a surname as a middle name.

RuthW · 05/02/2024 16:08

I work in the NHS. Non hyphenated named are a pain.

GlobalCitz · 05/02/2024 16:28

My children have non-barrelled surnames (mine and DH's), just like everyone in my country.

We do live in the UK and it's an absolute pain for official purposes; like the NHS, as PP pointed out.

Some institutions register them on ye systems by first surname/second, others just by the last surname, and yet others add non-existent hyphen.

If I could choose again, I'd give them my surname as a middle name and only one surname.

eurochick · 05/02/2024 17:46

Unless they are hyphenated a lot of people will assume the first part is a middle name and it will be dropped.

PoppingTomorrow · 05/02/2024 20:11

NameChange30 · 05/02/2024 13:01

I have two surnames, no hyphen, and so do my kids. Same as the entire population of Spain. No issues.

Are you in the UK?

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PoppingTomorrow · 05/02/2024 20:12

TallulahBetty · 05/02/2024 13:01

Depends what the names are, IMO. If they are obviously both surnames (Balonz Smith Jones) that could be less confusing than if one of the names could be a middle name (Balonz James Jones).

Both surnames definitely sound like surnames

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NameChange30 · 05/02/2024 20:19

PoppingTomorrow · 05/02/2024 20:11

Are you in the UK?

Yep.
I've had two surnames all my life and it's really not a problem; they are both used.
Ditto my children.

PoodlesRUs · 05/02/2024 21:25

Nobody will bother with the first surname unless it's hyphenated so put whichever surname you prefer the sound of in second position or use a hyphen. But, really, double-barrelled surnames rarely add anything aesthetically and either appear frilly or cumbersome.

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Yoyooo · 05/02/2024 21:29

Spanish surname here (no hyphen) and I am in the UK.

It's not too complicated tho just have to state there is no hyphen when telling your name.

The only other annoying thing is people calling me by the second part of my surname instead of my first when they shorten it.

stickygotstuck · 05/02/2024 21:37

Hyphen, definitely.

It gets tedious having to explain again and again that Surname1 is not MiddleName.

Plus, you get constantly filed under the wrong letter of the alphabet and doctors, banks, unis, etc can't find you in a rush!

telestrations · 05/02/2024 21:44

A friend recently had a baby which she announced on SM with it's name. Pre presumed she had given her it's name as a middle name and the fathers as the surname.

Now I'm wondering if it's double but not hyphenated?

I had never heard of this before

PoppingTomorrow · 05/02/2024 22:58

PoodlesRUs · 05/02/2024 21:25

Nobody will bother with the first surname unless it's hyphenated so put whichever surname you prefer the sound of in second position or use a hyphen. But, really, double-barrelled surnames rarely add anything aesthetically and either appear frilly or cumbersome.

I'm comfortable with why we're double-barrelling.

In practice he will have 5 syllables (4 if his 1st name is abbreviated) which is no more cumbersome than most people with a single barrel.

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PoppingTomorrow · 05/02/2024 22:59

(Ie, the reason isn't aesthetic)

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Enko · 06/02/2024 10:38

My children have a surname as a middlename. As does dh
(Let's say Cavendish Jones - Jones the surname Cavendish a family name)

Dh has never had any issues with this.

All 4 children have been filed under
Cavendish
Cavendish Jones
Cavendish-Jones
And just Jones.

Dd1 is about to marry and is considering removing it at the same time.

Dh in his 60s have never once had this happen so I do wonder if this is a newer generational thing. Double barrel and multiple surnames now more common.

KirstenBlest · 06/02/2024 13:30

Dh in his 60s have never once had this happen so I do wonder if this is a newer generational thing. Double barrel and multiple surnames now more common.
If you are in your 60s, you probably would have been given your mother's surname and that would have been your father's surname too.

Now it's quite likely that the parents have different surnames and the children have the double barrelled surname.

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