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Arry vs R.E

44 replies

Welliesinarow · 11/01/2024 16:07

Can you please, as simple as it can be, explain to me the difference in pronunciation between Arry and R.E?

To me Arry , like Harry with a dropped H, is pronounced as Har - E. , no?

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KittyMcKitty · 11/01/2024 16:13

Have I understood correctly?

Harry (and also Arry) have the same a sound as in apple, happy etc. basically Harry is the same as happy (but with two r’s instead of two p’s).

the R in R.E is pronounced like the word ‘are’ so two deferent pronunciations.

the E in RE is a longer sound the the y in Harry but essentially the same.

AllProperTeaIsTheft · 11/01/2024 16:16

I'm not quite sure I've understood the question, but I'll have a go...

'Arry' would have a short, flat 'a' like the 'a' in 'hat'. It would rhyme with 'marry'.

In 'R.E.', the pronunciation of 'R' would have a long 'a', so it would rhyme with 'car'.

AllProperTeaIsTheft · 11/01/2024 16:16

Cross-posted!

Whataretheodds · 11/01/2024 16:17

In an RP accent the difference would be rhe short flat in Harry/Arry versus the long "ah" vowel when pronouncing the R in R.E.

Also difference in emphasis between the syllables in each case. R.E. is more evenly weighted than Harry

RubaiyatOfAnyone · 11/01/2024 16:21

Yes, as PP, in my southern English accent, the first rhymes with “marry”, the second with “car tea”. Very different in pronunciation and emphasis.

MerryMarigold · 11/01/2024 16:23

The difference is also j in the emphasis.

Arry has the stress on the 'A' sound like happy.

R.E has the stress on the 'E'.

DontPutTheKidsThroughIt · 11/01/2024 16:25

What’s your first language OP? It’ll help with explaining.

MerryMarigold · 11/01/2024 16:28

I'm trying to think of things to rhyme with R.E with the stress on the second syllable and I'm struggling!

It's basically the opposite of PARty, MARty, FARty.

R. E rhymes with ParTEE.

Chaiandtoast · 11/01/2024 16:30

Arry is ahree
r e is are-ee

sondot · 11/01/2024 16:31

One is a word the other is 2 letters so there is a pause in between R and E that you don't have with arry.

What I really want to know is why this is being asked in baby names, because surely not?

ApolloandDaphne · 11/01/2024 16:33

Arry is said in one go as others have said sounds like marry or carry. RE is two separate sounds so, are-ee is how it would be said.

Doublebiscuit77 · 11/01/2024 16:35

Just googled - random about RE: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PUBE2MAMABU

And you can find videos of Harry Potter- Arry would be the same just without the H.

Totally different pronunciations in RP English accent.

DontPutTheKidsThroughIt · 11/01/2024 16:35

DontPutTheKidsThroughIt · 11/01/2024 16:25

What’s your first language OP? It’ll help with explaining.

Also, where are you based now - just the general region will do. UK accents vary a lot so I can explain what a Southern English accent does with those vowel sounds but if you’re living in Scotland for example it might not apply

DontPutTheKidsThroughIt · 11/01/2024 16:36

sondot · 11/01/2024 16:31

One is a word the other is 2 letters so there is a pause in between R and E that you don't have with arry.

What I really want to know is why this is being asked in baby names, because surely not?

OP is considering Ari as a name. She had another thread about it earlier.

Doublebiscuit77 · 11/01/2024 16:36

sondot · 11/01/2024 16:31

One is a word the other is 2 letters so there is a pause in between R and E that you don't have with arry.

What I really want to know is why this is being asked in baby names, because surely not?

I think the poster is the one who asked about Ari yesterday, I'd imagine that's the name under consideration not Arry!

Welliesinarow · 11/01/2024 16:39

Thanks All,

Our origin is from Spain and I really don't know how to pronounce words based on the above despite being in the UK more than 15 years. Haha! Crazy!

To me hat and car and rat and bat and jug and all these words are pronounced with the same a. I always use one short a and I honestly don't know when to elongate the a and when not. Is there a rule for it?

I am asking as I opened a thread yesterday about our potential baby boy name "Ari" and the responses I got confused me on how it will be pronounced. I couldn't get at all what PP were trying to say about different pronunciations of the name, hence I opened a new thread to focus on the pronunciation part.

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Onelife2024 · 11/01/2024 16:40

Is there a difference between the pronunciation of “cart” vs “cat” for you? “R.E” has the long “ar” sound in cart and “Arry” has the short “a” sound in cat.

Edited to say sorry - cross posted with your explanation 😊

Welliesinarow · 11/01/2024 16:42

@Onelife2024 No, cart and cat are same for me :(
I need some English lessons I guess.

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IDontLoveTheWayYouLie · 11/01/2024 16:42

I swear there another thread on this.

DontPutTheKidsThroughIt · 11/01/2024 16:42

Yep, I’ll give you a proper run down of the difference when I’ve got a minute..

KirstenBlest · 11/01/2024 16:43

Arry is ári. R.E is 'are ee'

Doublebiscuit77 · 11/01/2024 16:44

Can you watch some online videos of English spoken in your area - or ask a local friend/neighbour/colleague? I think it would be better demonstrated in person when you can listen!

ApolloandDaphne · 11/01/2024 16:44

Cart and cat are the same for me as I am Scottish so don't worry about thinking you are getting it wrong. There are constant squabbles on MN over pronunciations depending on where you come from even within the UK.

Heather37231 · 11/01/2024 16:47

Why does it matter? Just pronounce the name how you want to pronounce it in your own accent.

Everyone says other people’s names in their own accent. Eg my friend is called Victoria. She’s English. I’m Scottish. The “o” in her name when I say it is much shorter than the one she uses. But if I said it like she does it would be as if I was doing an impression of an English person.

AllProperTeaIsTheft · 11/01/2024 16:50

To me hat and car and rat and bat and jug and all these words are pronounced with the same a.

OP - can you not tell the difference between them even when you hear a native English speaker say them? They are very different when I say them.