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Eireann- thoughts

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Oscarspup · 02/12/2023 23:24

Can I ask for people’s honest opinions on the spelling of Eireann - instead of Erin?
expecially if you are familiar with Irish language- as my grammar/Irish language is not great ( despite only speaking Irish at primary school 🙈)
I appreciate some may wonder why not keep it simple- but I like the fact it has ‘Eire’ in it and and also would include my beloved aunt’s name Ann.
Also thank you to anyone taking the time to reply

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DaNiYmaOHyd · 05/12/2023 22:30

No, not really, although I can see why you might think so. Welsh is quite tricky to transcribe because you don't get most of the vowel diphthongs in English.

Seán and Siôn don't sound the same to me.

ChanelNo19EDT · 05/12/2023 22:34

Bad. I'm Irish. It is an adjective I suppose. Bus Eireann.

Aran like the island isn't my taste but I'd prefer that. For a girl too. Sky, Inis, Aran

MrsElijahMikaelson1 · 05/12/2023 23:01

I would pronounce it Eye R Ann which probably isn’t what you are after.

as someone who has to spell out their freaking unique fucking spelling of their name EVERY time it gets on my tits; so I would say don’t!

DaNiYmaOHyd · 05/12/2023 23:16

@MrsElijahMikaelson1 , me too. I like my name but I think people just see a jumble of letters when they see it. I find myself having to ask people to check they've spelt/typed my name correctly quite often.

TwirlBar · 06/12/2023 09:09

DaNiYmaOHyd · 05/12/2023 22:30

No, not really, although I can see why you might think so. Welsh is quite tricky to transcribe because you don't get most of the vowel diphthongs in English.

Seán and Siôn don't sound the same to me.

Oops, sorry. Sounds from other languages can be difficult to transcribe in English all right.

Anyway, just wanted to point out that Éireann/Erin as pronounced by Irish speakers sounds a bit different to how I've heard the name said in parts of the UK, namely England and Wales. It's Ay-rin in Ireland and I've heard Erin said as Eh-rin by speakers in the UK. The first syllable is quite different.

Seems like OP is Irish though I don't know where she's living now.

NonanteNeuf · 06/12/2023 09:19

Boomarang · 03/12/2023 00:14

I have an Oísin living in England. Love his name, would never change it. He might disagree re spelling 🙈

That being said, gave our next son a Celtic name but a more phonetically spelt one.

Your child will literally be spelling their name out multiple times a day whether you live in Ireland or elsewhere. And people will not know how to pronounce it.

It’s a beautiful name but also an absolute ball ache for them as they grow up!

I hope that’s a typo and you mean Oisín.

Otherwise his name would sound like Oeeeesin with the fada on the first i.

DaNiYmaOHyd · 06/12/2023 09:45

@TwirlBar , Euryn us more like Eh-Irrin, but the E+uh run into each other so it's 1 syllable. Euryn isn't much used. The name Aneurin, rhymes with it, although people who don't speak much Welsh might say An-eye-rin.

OP could use the Welsh spelling of Erin. Erin. The pronunciation is slightly different. i like in 'pig' not 'did'

GreatGateauxsby · 06/12/2023 09:51

Congrats

Honestly
Call your DD Erin or maybe Áine (both are gorgeous names)

I get what you are going for but most Irish people would have a chuckle at Éireann as it honestly to our ear sounds like a form of public transport...

ColleenDonaghy · 06/12/2023 10:00

I'm Irish and I don't like it I'm afraid. I'd also pronounce Erin and Eireann slightly differently, although it's subtle. Not quite sure how to write it - a slightly longer first syllable in Eireann perhaps?

I don't love Erin either but at least it's a recognised name and phonetic in English as well as Irish.

TwirlBar · 06/12/2023 10:14

GreatGateauxsby · 06/12/2023 09:51

Congrats

Honestly
Call your DD Erin or maybe Áine (both are gorgeous names)

I get what you are going for but most Irish people would have a chuckle at Éireann as it honestly to our ear sounds like a form of public transport...

Ah now!
Speak for yourself @GreatGateauxsby !😉
Éireann certainly doesn't make me think of public transport, no more than Dublin puts me in mind of Dublin bus.
And what about poor old Dáil Éireann and Met Éireann?

ColleenDonaghy · 06/12/2023 10:15

TwirlBar · 06/12/2023 10:14

Ah now!
Speak for yourself @GreatGateauxsby !😉
Éireann certainly doesn't make me think of public transport, no more than Dublin puts me in mind of Dublin bus.
And what about poor old Dáil Éireann and Met Éireann?

Yeah it doesn't make me think of transport. But I would think it was odd if I met a DC called France or Germany, and Eireann is no different.

KitchenAngst · 06/12/2023 10:17

LarkspurLane · 03/12/2023 17:10

I suppose because it means "of Ireland" it does seem a weird thing to call a child.
It would be like using "Of England" or "D'italia" , people might automatically want to add a word in front.
For what it's worth, I also think England and Wales are strange names to call a child but I suppose no stranger than many others I've heard on here.

Yes, this. The genitive/possessive just makes me think 'Phoblacht na h' or 'Bunreacht na h' and in generally vague thoughts about the Tuiseal Ginideach.

I must admit that while I absolutely get the way in which Erin, Shannon, Colleen and the like have returned to Ireland via Irish-America and the diaspora in general, I still find it gives me a bit of cognitive dissonance.

Shannon in my head is every bit as much an airport and industrial zone as a river or a girl's name, and Erin remains primarily a not very nice packet soup heavily advertised on RTE during my childhood.

LarkspurLane · 06/12/2023 11:04

KitchenAngst · 06/12/2023 10:17

Yes, this. The genitive/possessive just makes me think 'Phoblacht na h' or 'Bunreacht na h' and in generally vague thoughts about the Tuiseal Ginideach.

I must admit that while I absolutely get the way in which Erin, Shannon, Colleen and the like have returned to Ireland via Irish-America and the diaspora in general, I still find it gives me a bit of cognitive dissonance.

Shannon in my head is every bit as much an airport and industrial zone as a river or a girl's name, and Erin remains primarily a not very nice packet soup heavily advertised on RTE during my childhood.

A friend of mine worked in a company as part of Shannon industries (industries was not actual word).
Someone rang up and asked to speak to "Dr Shannon Industries".
It was not an April fool!
Forgot about Erin soup!

Abhannmor · 06/12/2023 15:41

Erin Foods packet rice isn't too bad. But yeh the soup was vile !

SparkyBlue · 06/12/2023 16:30

Bus Eireann was the first thought that popped into my head.

ChildOfTheMoon · 06/12/2023 16:40

Eireann is a common spelling around my way. I don't know any Erin's

StarlightLime · 06/12/2023 16:55

ChildOfTheMoon · 06/12/2023 16:40

Eireann is a common spelling around my way. I don't know any Erin's

Where is that?

FrustatedAgain · 06/12/2023 16:58

I would never have pronounced it Erin, I'd think it was more Air-Ann.
I do think its nice, its not a daft name its like lots of Irish names they may have to explain the pronunciation a lot.

museumum · 06/12/2023 17:00

I know an Eirinn.
It's nice enough as a name though I do think it depends on how you say the letter r.

Eiris · 06/12/2023 18:51

Is fearr liom an litriú "Éirinn".
Is aoibhinn liom an t-ainm, cibé an litriú.

ThisHouseWillBeTheDeathOfMe · 06/12/2023 18:54

MrsElijahMikaelson1 · 05/12/2023 23:01

I would pronounce it Eye R Ann which probably isn’t what you are after.

as someone who has to spell out their freaking unique fucking spelling of their name EVERY time it gets on my tits; so I would say don’t!

Yes, before I opened the thread, I pronounced it, Ire Ann.

ChildOfTheMoon · 06/12/2023 19:15

In n.ireland Eireann was the 89th most popular name of 2021

MoonstoneGoddess · 06/12/2023 19:17

@StarlightLime I'm in West northern ireland there's alot of eireanns. I've never met anyone with the spelling Erin. So it's not that uncommon depending where you are but it's a used spelling

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