Name drama

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SIL and brother called DS Charles, he is only known as Charles. I am aware this could change when he gets to school however parents insist on Charles.
I told my mother if my baby (14 weeks pregnant) is a boy he will be Charlie, Charlie would be on the BC after my husbands dear grandfather who is no longer with us.
Mother was horrified and said I could not use the name

please give me your thoughts

If it was me, I wouldn't use it as a first name, probably just as a middle name.

But it might depend on how close you are to your brother and his family and how much time the cousins will spend with each other.

Yes it’s weird and I would find it quite bizarre if my SIL/BIL did that but there’s a sentimental reason why you want to use the name and so, if you are set on it, just tell them beforehand that it is very important to you and DH to honour his grandfather and you will be calling him Charlie.

I would use it as a middle name if I was you, unless they are very distant and you hardly see them

Cross posted with PP there!

I wouldn't name baby Charlie if that's the case. I'd use as a middle name

Use it as a middle name. Totally stupid to have two cousins Called Charles and Charlie!

You can’t call the baby Charlie if your brother has a Charles.

use it as a middle name.

Just don’t

Name your boy Charlie.

First, it's an honor name after someone specific.

Second, if they wanted their child's name to be unique, they shouldn't have gone with Charles!

It would be like calling dibs on middle names like James or Marie, classics can't be claimed exclusively.

Well I mean you could call him Charlie but it's bloody weird to use the one name that's already been used for a grandchild in your family and anyone saying otherwise is just telling you what you want to hear.

Their Charles is obviously going to be Charlie at some point as he's only a baby or toddler at the moment and your mum will have 2 grandsons with exactly the same first name which is bound to cause confusion.

Give him Charlie as a middle name in recognition of your husband's granddad but give the poor kid his own first name.

All that aside it seems an odd thing to tell your mum when you don't even know if you're having a boy. Like you're doing it deliberately to provoke a reaction.

Just weird

You can't call him Charlie! Don't be absurd

Odd! There a million other names you could use.

Don’t call him Charlie, have that as a middle name or if you must have it as a first name you could hyphenate it (not that I’m a big fan of hyphenated names) but it would be ridiculous for your mum having 2 grandchildren with the same name who are both roughly the same age!

Charlie-Paul for example. Perhaps there is another significant name you could use?

Why is it weird? If SIL is insisting on Charles, that is the cousins name. Charlie is not the same name, especially if it's on the birth certificate. I'm really surprised at the responses so far.

Its the same name, Charlie is just a shortened version of Charles...

Sorry op I really don't think you can

I wouldn't call my baby the same name as my brother's baby, as it's to honour a family member though I would use it as a middle name.

It's a bit odd but my step sil copied my sons name she just switched it around strangely enough my son was named after mine and ds grandads name so essentially she named her son after her stepmums ex fil and my grandfather 🤣 it was quite attention seeking and insulting for her father who raised them (alone no support he married mil when they were grown)

Charles and Charlie are the same name, I doubt many people called Charles haven't at one stage been called Charlie during their lives. Charles in this situation is under 4 as he's not even at school yet so is very likely to become Charlie which is the very natural and normal shortening of anyone called Charles.

I'm really surprised anyone would think this was not a weird thing to do especially as they don't even know if they are having a boy.

Of course that’s ridiculous. You can’t name your baby the same as your own brother’s baby.

No I wouldn’t use Charlie either. As others have said, use as a middle name.

Use it as a middle name

Come on now. Don't be stupid. If the child were a distant relative, a second cousin, one you rarely see, fine, but this is your brother's child we're talking about. Everyone, and I do mean everyone, will think you are either a massive twat, really stupid, or both.

Yes its weird. It's the exact same name.
Charles/Charlie is a popular name anyway but to have the same name so close in the family is just bizzare when he was named first and there are literally thousands of names to choose from.
How bizzare that you would want to do that 🤷

Yep. Totally ridiculous.

I know no one owns a name etc, but to call your child the same name as his first cousin is just really bizarre when there are literally hundreds of thousands of other names to choose from. If it’s mainly to honour an ancestor then use it as a middle name.