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Japanese name if no Japanese heritage

141 replies

SpacePie · 27/02/2023 13:33

I love the gentle sound of many Japanese names.

What names could pass in the UK without raising eyebrows at the fact that neither myself or my husband are Japanese.

I must admit it's studio Ghibli that inspires this love, but many don't seem to be pronounced how they're spelled:

Satsuki
Sôsuke
Arietty
Kiki

I am fairly sensible and wouldn't want to land a baby with an impossible to spell / pronounce name so I'm all ears to England friendly suggestions.

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Emptycrackedcup · 27/02/2023 21:25

I don't like Kiki, makes me think of a cat. But love the rest. Much more interesting than a bland, overused name I think. I don't think it matters if it's Japanese, all names originated from somewhere

Supersimkin2 · 27/02/2023 21:28

m Isn’t a naming supposed to be about the baby not the parents’ tv habits?

CremeEggsForBreakfast · 27/02/2023 21:38

With all kindness, step away from the Studio Ghibli for a little while 😂 Your poor child will be called Ponyo at this rate!

Or just go with May?

Meifly · 27/02/2023 22:35

lavendery · 27/02/2023 21:19

As someone born and bred in Asia I'm personally fine with people liking parts of my culture, even if they get a lot of the details wrong. It's not like people liking French or English culture have written anthropological and sociological dissertations on those cultures either

That said, I think Asians born in the US or UK have more complicated feelings around this. The same people and society once extremely openly racist and mocking towards them are now fetishising their culture. So with this context I can understand it

I guess another problem is some people fetishising certain cultures like Japanese or Korean while considering others like Chinese inferior, not realising they are intertwined. And their Eurocentric perspective doesn't have awareness of common knowledge in Asia (though maybe not Japan), like a lot of horrific isues from how the Japanese gained dominance over these countries from colonisation/the Asian holocaust... But ah fuck it, Brits don't even know that their own crimes against humanity are why the formerly wealthy colonies in South Asia remain impoverished, so I find it easier to just excuse their ignorance 😂

I know others may not feel that way though, eg Chinese/Koreans feel strongly about the ongoing comfort women legacy from Japanese oppression, or there are memorials in Singapore for the racial massacres/genocide by the Japanese... So I do understand varying feelings on this subject

That maybe true about people who grew up in predominantly white countries feeling more sensitive about the picking and choosing of culture.

Personally I don't mind someone liking something or admiring it but it does annoy me when that becomes a level of trying to claim ownership of it or making it part of their identity and to me I would feel like taking a Japanese name would fall under that

I think this is especially the case when like you say so many aspects about Asian culture have been mocked and looked down on (a friend who went to university in USA with one of the names mentioned on this thread for example was constantly teased for it)

Phos · 28/02/2023 06:10

@daisypond

It’s inappropriate and possibly a bit offensive. It’s completely different to calling your child a French or Italian name.

Why?

daisypond · 28/02/2023 07:44

Phos · 28/02/2023 06:10

@daisypond

It’s inappropriate and possibly a bit offensive. It’s completely different to calling your child a French or Italian name.

Why?

Because we have a shared culture going back over a thousand years. That includes linguistics, religion, societal, historical, all sorts of anthropological reasons. We’ve always had the same names -often Christian- but before that too, with minor variations to account for linguistics. There’s nothing like that with Japan.

JamSandle · 28/02/2023 07:56

Go for it!

Meifly · 28/02/2023 11:02

Phos · 28/02/2023 06:10

@daisypond

It’s inappropriate and possibly a bit offensive. It’s completely different to calling your child a French or Italian name.

Why?

Exactly as @daisypond said. On top of that please see previous posts regarding meaning and tradition in Asian naming and the history of racism against Asian culture in this country.

Can you really not see the difference between a European name and one that OP literally has no understanding of or connection to that automatically marks someone as belonging to another race and culture

RicciardoPerez · 28/02/2023 11:12

I was born in Japan, my parents are not Japanese but lived there for long enough. When I was born, my parents wanted to name me Ayaka. The midwives discouraged my parents from using that name as apparently it was deemed offensive to use a Japanese name for a foreigner. This was many years ago now. I know now that current generations don't mind, but then again, I was born in very rural traditional Japan where these traditions may have been more stricter perhaps?

Fwiw, I'm not too concerned at being outed here, but my parents settled for the name Priya, which is Indian heritage. I'm not Indian either. It is not deemed offensive in Indian culture. I remember asking another Priya who I came across in work and she loved seeing our name 'out there for all to use'.

What I'm saying is OP, I'd go for it. Use whatever name you like.

LaBellina · 28/02/2023 11:23

Yuki ~ means Snow
Sakura ~means cherry blossom
Midori ~ means green

Naomi and Minna are both popular girls names in Japan.

It’s not always possible to say a Japanese name has just 1 meaning except for the obvious ones I mentioned above as yuki and sakura both are literally the terms used for snow, green and cherry blossoms in Japan (granted there are other terms too but everyone agrees on what they mean). This is because different kanji’s can be used for the same name and they can have different meanings. Eg my friend’s name is Yukiko (so a bit more extended then just Yuki) and her name can be written in several different kanji’s and has several meanings each.

LaBellina · 28/02/2023 11:25

*yuki, midori and sakura

LaBellina · 28/02/2023 11:27

If you want to check if a name is authentically Japanese, check if it’s written in kanji or hiragana at least. If it’s in Katakana it’s an ‘imported’ foreign name

Nicecow · 28/02/2023 11:29

daisypond · 28/02/2023 07:44

Because we have a shared culture going back over a thousand years. That includes linguistics, religion, societal, historical, all sorts of anthropological reasons. We’ve always had the same names -often Christian- but before that too, with minor variations to account for linguistics. There’s nothing like that with Japan.

I actually think this is more offensive tbh

MurderAtTheBeautyPageant · 28/02/2023 11:35

I only know the word Midori in relation to that lurid green liqueur that gathers dust at the back of a drinks cabinet.

purpledalmation · 28/02/2023 11:36

No.

SinnerSinnerChickenDinner · 28/02/2023 11:51

Phos · 28/02/2023 06:10

@daisypond

It’s inappropriate and possibly a bit offensive. It’s completely different to calling your child a French or Italian name.

Why?

It’s different because European people calling their children a European name from a different country is very different to calling a child an Asian name, there’s a lot more possibility of calling the child a name they don’t really understand culturally/cultural significance. Watching some Japanese cartoons does not mean understanding the culture/language in a meaningful way. Plus European culture imposed names/culture on people for 100s of years.

European cultures have so much overlap in language and culture from the last 1000 years, sometimes it gets tangled up and that’s fine. Half our languages come from the same Latin, or Germanic routes, and the bible heavily influences European cultures

Using a random culture you don’t have the same connections to can be culturally appropriative, look up cultural appropriation and listen to Japanese people on this thread

SinnerSinnerChickenDinner · 28/02/2023 11:54

Nicecow · 28/02/2023 11:29

I actually think this is more offensive tbh

It’s hardly offensive to point out areas of shared culture… cultures don’t exactly evolve in a vacuum

HairyToity · 28/02/2023 11:58

The Japanese girls I've met are Tomoko and Emi.

I think Emme (short for Emilia) could work?

I also like Kiki, Suki and Arietty.

Bamboux · 28/02/2023 12:05

Phos · 27/02/2023 20:16

You're conditioned to think that because it's become mainstream.

Naomi is a Hebrew name from the Old Testament and has been one of the popular Jewish girls' names for centuries.

MRSTokyo · 28/02/2023 13:41

As a Japanese person, I don't think Arietty is a Japanese name. I don't know anyone called Kiki either. Kiki can be used more for pet animals.

When I was in Hong Kong, I met quite a few locals with a Japanese name while they are not related to Japan. I was not offended but I found it a bit strange.

ThomasinaLivesHere · 28/02/2023 16:32

I think Naomi is your best bet. Though maybe it’s not as exciting as it’s not clearly foreign. It’s not like you’ll be asked about a Japanese connection but that can be a good thing. I met a few while living there and it was a popular name for westerners having baby girls in Japan due to it being recognised in both cultures.

H34th · 28/02/2023 16:36

Phos · 27/02/2023 14:42

Unpopular opinion here but I always think use whatever the hell name you like. There are so many names that have various spellings or pronunciations already.

My very non-Italian daughter has a very Italian name. No one has really questioned it. It sometimes gets misspelt or mispronounced, it’s fine, we correct if it’s important and move on.

Agree with this.

SaulHudsonDavidJones · 28/02/2023 16:49

Emi works well

KirstenBlest · 28/02/2023 19:32

@H34th , many don't agree, so probably some people IRL will disapprove. If nothing else, the 'Are you [nationality]?' questions might be a bit tiresome. It also could be that the name might have spelling or pronunciation issues that might be a PITA.

I think it depends on the name, and if there are any religious, cultural or historical reasons why it might be insensitive to use it.

KirstenBlest · 28/02/2023 19:48

There's a current thread about the name Dolce that might illustrate the attitudes to a name from a different language.