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Longer birth certificate name...?

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Dreamingof3 · 08/10/2022 17:46

My general opinion has ways been to just call the baby the name you're going to use. Eg. His name is Thomas but we'll be calling him Tommy...well then give him the name Tommy.

However...due baby number 3 and I absolutely love Cece but feel it isn't a strong enough stand alone name to grow up with. So I'm thinking Cecelia. Which I absolutely love too. But I'm now arguing with myself about whether it's silly to put one name on the b/c and then insist on using a shortened form

....hormones making me mad, quite possibly 🤣

Does anyone get where I'm coming from though?

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LividLaVidaLoca · 08/10/2022 17:47

I had same debate as generally prefer just giving the name you’ll use, as a theory.

However, my boy’s name now has a massively OTT full name on it and I’m still not 100% sure either way (and he’s 2 🫣)

Aquamarine1029 · 08/10/2022 17:49

Give your child the option of having a dignified first name as an adult. Cece might not serve them very well.

KangarooKenny · 08/10/2022 17:50

What about the shortened Celia ?

Dreamingof3 · 08/10/2022 17:51

Aquamarine1029 · 08/10/2022 17:49

Give your child the option of having a dignified first name as an adult. Cece might not serve them very well.

This is what I'm thinking. It's really cute for a child but would she appreciate it as an adult 🤔

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JJJSchmidt · 08/10/2022 17:52

I compromised with dh about a name - I wanted the short one but he wanted the long version. It's such a pita every time she goes somewhere new and she doesn't even recognise her long name as hers. I also hate having a different birth ceriricste name. Please go short!!

Willdoitlater · 08/10/2022 17:52

I don't fancy going to a solicitor or doctor named Cece, or Tommy, or whatever, so the long form is useful for formal situations like work. On the other hand Cecelia might be a bit of a mouthful if you are ever in a situation repeatedly shouting 'Cecelia, get down from there' to a four-year old. Short version: use the formal version on birth cert so they have a choice when they are old enough for it to matter, they won't be a baby forever.

Willdoitlater · 08/10/2022 17:54

But use short version at home, I meant to add.

tickticksnooze · 08/10/2022 17:56

Dreamingof3 · 08/10/2022 17:51

This is what I'm thinking. It's really cute for a child but would she appreciate it as an adult 🤔

At one time people had the same debate about Nigel and Ethel being too cute for an adult, and then the generation grew up with their names so now we struggle to think of them as baby names.

Either you like the name Cece and intend for that to be her name or you don't.

It's a fucking pain to have to write out a name nobody knows you by every time you do an exam or anything official just because your parent was being pretentious when they registered your birth - pick one name and give her that name.

tickticksnooze · 08/10/2022 17:59

Willdoitlater · 08/10/2022 17:52

I don't fancy going to a solicitor or doctor named Cece, or Tommy, or whatever, so the long form is useful for formal situations like work. On the other hand Cecelia might be a bit of a mouthful if you are ever in a situation repeatedly shouting 'Cecelia, get down from there' to a four-year old. Short version: use the formal version on birth cert so they have a choice when they are old enough for it to matter, they won't be a baby forever.

It didn't sound to me like op had any intention whatsoever of addressing her child as Cecelia so that's irrelevant. And just makes the idea of registering her birth under that name even more ludicrous.

If you would turn down the advice of the most competent expert in their field because of their name then more fool you.

tickticksnooze · 08/10/2022 18:01

Who chooses their surgeon or solicitor based on their first name? That's stupid. I want the best expert available, I don't give a toss what their name is.

caitlinrose · 08/10/2022 18:05

Cece is really informal and I'd definitely choose a longer version.

To me it really depends on the name.

Tommy, Bobby, Alfie feel too cute to me and I would pick a longer version.

Jessie and Ellie are okay for some reason as is Max.

I can't really explain why.

dream28 · 08/10/2022 18:05

There's difference between using a nickname and using name that is shortened, but well established.
I can definitely see a doctor named Cece and Tommy, but that's just a name and they could still see it negatively. Name doesn't have so much impact on job offers, what have impact is race and whether you're are immigrant, sadly. There was article how people in America avoid hiring people with traditionally back names.

that said, not every doctor or lawyer sees their name positively, maybe she will dislike how in private life she has to go with cutesy name, but she doesn't care about that on job because everyone is professional then. She can also go my Ms. Surname.

That said, if you go with Cecelia, be sure to call her Cecelia sometimes, otherwise you have child who doesn't recognize her name.

That said, if I want to name my kid Felicity, but use nickname Fliss, I would put Felicity on bc, because I love Felicity, but make sure I use both nickname and full name for my kid at least once, so my kid knows who Felicity is. Sometimes, you love the nickname, but you don't love said nickname if it's on birth certificate. I don't love Fliss enough to put that on bc, so I would go with name I love on bc and in everyday - Felicity. Or another name I pick for my kid, Felicity Fliss is just an example.

caitlinrose · 08/10/2022 18:10

I can't edit my post but would like to add:

to me Cecilia looks more correct than Cecelia.

There are lots of other options:

Celia
Celeste
Celestia
Celestina
Celestine
Cécile
Cecily
Celandine (a lovely flower)
Cedar (if you like nature names)
Céline
Celina

I would pick Celina or Celandine.

Twizbe · 08/10/2022 18:11

I'm one for BC names and nicknames.

My daughter is Cerys and we shorten that to Cece or Ce. She tends to prefer other people to call her Cerys and only is family to use Ce

StopFeckingFaffing · 08/10/2022 18:17

Personally I would put Cecelia on the BC even if you plan to call her Cece

There are some names which are very well established in their shortened form (Kate, Tom, Ben, Sam etc) but I don't think Cece falls into that category

Cecelia is a lovely name so it's not like you will be saddling her with a full name she is going to be embarrassed about

InsertPunHere · 08/10/2022 18:18

I'm the reverse of you, OP - I like to have options. My mother changed which nickname of her full name was used in adulthood and I did the same. (Think Margaret to Maggie, Meg, Peg, Mags etc)

I rather like Benjamin, for example, to be able to choose Ben, Benny or Benji at different stages of his life. Most Thomases I know were Thomas or Tommy when young and Tom in adulthood.

Having an adaptable name has advantages.

KatRee · 08/10/2022 18:22

As a Kate, who always wishes I'd been a Katherine, even if I ultimately shortened it to Kate anyway, I'd say use the longer version- just gives them options when they are older

sageandbasil · 08/10/2022 18:25

I noticed on the ONS list Charlie is super high but Charles is really low. I think it's becoming the norm to put the name you'll call the baby on the BC. cece is lovely

Augend23 · 08/10/2022 18:28

KatRee · 08/10/2022 18:22

As a Kate, who always wishes I'd been a Katherine, even if I ultimately shortened it to Kate anyway, I'd say use the longer version- just gives them options when they are older

This.

My mother was always called a shortened version of her name growing up and switched to the longer version as an adult. The same with my brother - he changed the shortening as he grew up. A "formal" birth certificate name gives them the option.

TimBoothseyes · 08/10/2022 18:33

I've only ever been called the short version of my long first name as it sounds like a full name anyway (think Pollyanna - Polly). The only people who ever called me the full version were my parents when I was in trouble. 😃

Sunshinegirl82 · 08/10/2022 18:38

I've given both of my DS the longer version of their names on their birth certificates although we always intended to use a shortened version day to day.

Both the names we've chosen have a number of possible "nicknames" and I think it's nice to have a choice when you're an adult about what you use and what suits your personality. For example I'm sure there are lots of adult Katherine's who wouldn't want to known as Kitty and vice versa.

I have a longish name and most people call me by a shortened version although I do use my full name at work. It's honestly never caused me even the slightest inconvenience!

onethirtyfive · 08/10/2022 18:41

I love having a name that could be shortened as I dislike the long version of my name and like the nickname version so swapped to that as a teen. Gave my DDs long versions as well and they like the flexibility of being able to grow into their names.

Plmoknijbuhv · 08/10/2022 18:42

I have the opposite opinion to the majority. I prefer the full name on bc and then nickname can be used. As two examples my ds has a name with an obvious shortening that we used predominantly. At 12 he has decided he prefers the long name so now we use that and there is that flexibility. I also have a name that has an obvious nickname that I use at home. However in work I have always used the full name as it has always felt more appropriate. That is not true for everyone of course

OldTinHat · 08/10/2022 18:48

If it helps (probably not), I was given a long name and my mum was certain that it would be shortened to a particular nickname (even though she never called me by that).

My name has been shortened for 51yrs to a nn my mum still hates! But I prefer my long name and always introduce myself that way and my family call me that name.

I do have several nn versions of my name and only two people have ever shortened it to my favourite (a softer version of the assumed nn) but no one has called me by the name my mum assumed and hoped for.

So, long story short! If you want a particular name that could be a nn, go for that. Don't go for a long name that could be other versions that you or she won't like. Or go for the long name and see what journey it takes you on - it can actually be quite entertaining!

OldTinHat · 08/10/2022 18:50

And no, I'm not an Elizabeth!