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Irish babynames 2021

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SeanChailleach · 25/02/2022 19:37

www.cso.ie/en/releasesandpublications/ep/p-ibn/irishbabiesnames2021/

Croía, Indie, Ted and Tadgh (that spelling) storming up the charts, looks like.

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LizzieAnt · 26/02/2022 11:06

does anyone know how the Tadgh spelling is being pronounced?

I don't know for sure SeanChailleach, but I'm guessing it's pronounced the same as Tadhg as Joolsin said. I think it's just a spelling mistake (and that's why it makes me sad). I have a friend Tadhg and he says he does often get it spelt the wrong way around. People are more familiar with gh in a word - from words like cough, dough etc - than with hg. He's in Ireland so it's mostly Irish people making the mistake in his case.

BloodyForeland · 26/02/2022 11:11

It ‘ll be the same people who call their baby Aoibheann and pronounce it ‘Ayveen’, or Sorcha and pronounce it ‘Sore-sha’.

LizzieAnt · 26/02/2022 11:31

According to the figures, there were 318 babies called Tadhg and 68 called Tadgh in 2021. So that's 17.6% of parents choosing the 'wrong' spelling, which is worrying. It's one thing to make a spelling error on a birthday card or email (as happens to my friend Tadhg a lot), but when naming your child? And yet I can't think of any other explanation other than it's a mistake...hope I'm wrong about that though.

BloodyForeland · 26/02/2022 11:45

@LizzieAnt

According to the figures, there were 318 babies called Tadhg and 68 called Tadgh in 2021. So that's 17.6% of parents choosing the 'wrong' spelling, which is worrying. It's one thing to make a spelling error on a birthday card or email (as happens to my friend Tadhg a lot), but when naming your child? And yet I can't think of any other explanation other than it's a mistake...hope I'm wrong about that though.
Don’t registrars check the spelling with registering parents? I’ve never registered a baby in Ireland —DS was born abroad — but when we registered him, the registrar went through the name very carefully, double-checking the spelling, whether his two surnames were hyphenated or not etc.
Twinsandsome · 26/02/2022 11:55

@KirstenBlest

I got those right I think but the top 100 ones have many I'd almost certainly get wrong.

Rian, Oadhran, Daithí, Páidí, Fionn, Donnacha, Senan, Eoin (Owen not Ewan), Darragh

Laoise, Áine, Ailbhe, Méabh, Éabha, Caoimhe, Saoirse

Laoise is lee- sha Ailbhe is Al va Maebh is me ave Caoimhe or Ciabha is kee-va Aine is on ya Saorise is ser cha

Eabha is Eva
Odhran is o ran
Darragh is dar a
Rian is Ryan

LizzieAnt · 26/02/2022 12:01

Yes, they do check very carefully that they've written down correctly the spelling you've chosen. At least that's been my experience. I don't know if they'd pick this up though, maybe they'd query it sometimes, I'm not sure.

Tadhg has become very popular recently, but wasn't that widely used in previous generations, on birth certs anyway. So people mightn't be that familiar with the spelling. The Tadhg I know is Timothy on his birth cert.

LizzieAnt · 26/02/2022 12:02

Sorry that was for BloodyForeland.

LizzieAnt · 26/02/2022 12:11

Laoise is lee- sha
Ailbhe is Al va
Maebh is me ave
Caoimhe or Ciabha is kee-va
Aine is on ya
Saorise is ser cha

Eabha is Eva
Odhran is o ran
Darragh is dar a
Rian is Ryan

Where I am Ailbhe is more Al-veh, Méabh is Mayve,
Caoimhe is Queeva (an approximation, sound doesn't properly exist in English), Áine is Awn-yeh, Saoirse is Seer-sheh, Éabha is Ay-va, Rian is Ree-an.
But pronunciations do vary depending on where you live.

KirstenBlest · 26/02/2022 12:21

'Thanks. The spelling matters though - Micheal and Michael don't sound the same

Is Kiely said as Keely or Kylie?
Is " Dufferin and Ava " said as Duffryn & Ah-va?

and how do you say Iveagh?

BloodyForeland · 26/02/2022 12:38

@KirstenBlest

'Thanks. The spelling matters though - Micheal and Michael don't sound the same

Is Kiely said as Keely or Kylie?
Is " Dufferin and Ava " said as Duffryn & Ah-va?

and how do you say Iveagh?

But much of the difference between Michael and Micheál is because of the fads on the ‘a’ in Micheál.

MostDubliners pronounce the Iveagh Gardens as ‘Ivy’, but the Guinness pronounce the title as ‘EYE-vah.’

Kiely is Kylie.

I’ve always said Duffrin and AY-va, but I’m not sure I’ve ever had cause to say it aloud. Isn’t the title extinct now?

BloodyForeland · 26/02/2022 12:39

Guinnesses.

SeanChailleach · 26/02/2022 12:49

rollercoaster.ie/pregnancy/baby-names/behind-the-name-tadhg-the-irish-boys-name-going-international/

Irish parenting site Rollercoaster proposes Tadgh and Tadg as alternative spellings to Tadhg without any explanation. That must have some influence.

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KirstenBlest · 26/02/2022 13:07

I’ve always said Duffrin and AY-va, but I’m not sure I’ve ever had cause to say it aloud. Isn’t the title extinct now?

Yes. I was reading a biography and there were a few references to it and Iveagh and I was curious

LizzieAnt · 26/02/2022 13:18

I can understand Tadg SeanChailleach, as the name would once have been written as Tadg with a dot over the d. The dot is a séimhiú, which is now represented by a h, but you can see how it might have been misplaced along the way. Though an understandable mistake, Tadg is still incorrect.
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I've only ever heard Kiely said as Kylie KirstenBlest.

Classica · 26/02/2022 19:11

Morto for the people calling their sons Tadgh

Yuck.

Classica · 26/02/2022 19:16

The Tadghs should form a support group with all the Pheobes out there.

Classica · 26/02/2022 19:25

It feels like Jack has been the no.1 boys' names for the past 20 years. Not even exaggerating.

Joolsin · 27/02/2022 00:02

@Classica

It feels like Jack has been the no.1 boys' names for the past 20 years. Not even exaggerating.
I think it has. Although I don't know that many now. There were three in my late teens DS's class, and three Harrys too.
Classica · 27/02/2022 00:52

When I was 12, about 30 years ago, my friend's baby brother was called Jack and everyone was 'woah, that's an auld fella's name!'. But it was clearly the start of a wave.

Interesting that names in Ireland don't change that much. Boys' names at least. I'm sure John was the No.1 name for a couple of decades too.

mathanxiety · 27/02/2022 05:00

I hope it's not the registrars getting the spelling of Tadhg wrong.

The fact that anyone gets it wrong is worrying though.

mathanxiety · 27/02/2022 05:01

I can understand Tadg too. I knew a Medb years ago.

mathanxiety · 27/02/2022 05:04

I see they've posted Rían with the fada - it's not necessary because you pronounce IA as EE-ah. You wouldn't have a fada on Liam.

mathanxiety · 27/02/2022 05:07

Same goes for Fíadh...

Dustyblue · 27/02/2022 07:25

There are some truly beautiful names on those lists.

I have a Declan, was surprised not to see it mentioned.... is it not common in Ireland these days? We're in Australia and don't know any others yet, but I've a feeling it might take off.

Easy pronunciation at least!

Liv999 · 27/02/2022 08:08

@Dustyblue

There are some truly beautiful names on those lists.

I have a Declan, was surprised not to see it mentioned.... is it not common in Ireland these days? We're in Australia and don't know any others yet, but I've a feeling it might take off.

Easy pronunciation at least!

No Declan would be considered one of the older type Irish names, I know a few Declans all in their 40s or 50s, same with Orla, seems to be popular in the UK right now but left the Irish top 100 a few years ago