Áine (Irish - pronounced onya)

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Yes or no... obviously no one will read it correctly..: but I love it

not for my hypothetical last chance baby number3 that I might not even have

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Similar Irish names:
Báine - means "whiteness" (but might get confused with "bainne" which means milk)
Daráine - "daughter of Áine" ( a rate but authentic early name)
Uaine - "green" or maybe "queen". In the Finn tales, Uaine Buide from Síd Dúinn Buide is accompanied by all the birds from the Land of Promise and makes the most wonderful music.

@Ceramide

Too similar to aine which is French for groin.

But aine is pronounced 'enn'.

To those quibbling about the sound of the second vowel, it's a schwa -- in this position an unstressed, toneless neutral vowel.

@mathanxiety

As an aside, I'm not sure the 'y' sound would have been said in Munster either, the same goes for the y in Áine for that matter

The (N)Y represents the slender N in both Eithne and Áine.

Yes, I know, but the slender n is said a bit differently in the different dialects mathanxiety. You can hear the difference in how the word báine (that SeanChailleach mentioned) is said in Munster in the link below -

www.teanglann.ie/en/gram/b%c3%a1ine

And in how one of the speakers pronounces Áine in this link -

forvo.com/word/%C3%A1ine/

Á is pronounced differently in Ulster Irish (not as aw), and that affects the pronunciation of Áine too as chickepie and others have said.

Á is pronounced differently in Ulster Irish (not as aw), and that affects the pronunciation of Áine too as chickepie and others have said.

The fada elongates the vowel in ulster whereas it changes the sound in the rest of the dialects. Given fada means long, I would say ulster is more the original sound.

Áine has a name day in France because it was popular in Brittany at one point, so I don't think the coincidental written resemblance to 'groin' has been seen as much of a problem, historically.

Quick explain for people with no Irish: all consonants have two versions: slender and broad.
The difference is used in grammar, for instance to make some plurals, Irish narrows the final consonant. (Indicated in the spelling by inserting a silent letter i.)

an bád "the boat": na báid "the boats".
an garsún "the boy": na garsúin "the boys"

In some dialects the slender consonants have a little y sound and the broad consonants are plain.
In other dialects the slender consonants are plain and the broad consonants have a little w sound.

The name Ana is just same as English Anna.
Áine is Awnya or Ana depending on dialect.

@garlictwist

Sorry Op I think it's very ugly.

It's a traditional Irish name steeped in thousands of years of Irish history and mythology .... Rather ignorant and mean of you just to say it's "ugly". You may not appreciate the history of the name but to just ignorantly say a name from another culture is ugly? Not nice at all

There are lots of names from other cultures I find ugly and I have no qualms saying so. For example, Blodwyn - sorry, Wales. Or Bertha - sorry, Germany!

As far as I know, Áine isn't said like Ana anywhere SeanChailleach? I don't think so anyway.

This is where we start confusing ourselves with imprecise phonic spellings.

I think Annya sounds much nicer to the ear than Onya

@SeanChailleach

This is where we start confusing ourselves with imprecise phonic spellings.

Well, that does happen a lot on these threads, that's for sure

Well, unless we all start using the international phonetic alphabet, I don't see how it can be resolved. The rhotic/non-rhotic thing causes enough confusion in baby names threads.

@StrychnineInTheSandwiches

There are lots of names from other cultures I find ugly and I have no qualms saying so. For example, Blodwyn - sorry, Wales. Or Bertha - sorry, Germany!

The British invaded Ireland and forced anglicisation. Brutally ripped our language, culture and names away over centuries.

Irish names, language and culture are being reclaimed here so it's very ignorant of any English or British person to just say "I think it's an ugly name".
Course you do. So did the invaders hence forced anglicisation .

In the north of Ireland having an Irish name can still carry risks of discrimination and disrespect. Even violence.
So please if you're not from Ireland and don't understand all of this please please don't call our names ugly.

I think it's offensive to say 'all Irish/Indian/Vietnamese names are ugly'

I don't think it's offensive to state that you find an individual name to be ugly.

@StrychnineInTheSandwiches

There are lots of names from other cultures I find ugly and I have no qualms saying so. For example, Blodwyn - sorry, Wales. Or Bertha - sorry, Germany!

If you're going to say a name is Welsh and ugly, could you have the decency to spell it properly please.

It's Blodwen, and it was the name of a relative. It's not ugly but a bit dated

I'm not saying it's Welsh, it is Welsh. I'm saying it's ugly. As that's my opinion.

I presume you're okay with me thinking Bertha is ugly?

I like it but think she'd be forever trying to correct peoples pronunciation or just let them call her something else - like Annie as that's what it looks like. Maybe a middle name?

Let's be fair now, "Strychnine" is downright hideous...
Seriously though, what are you adding to the conversation by saying you think it's ugly? What's ugly? The look of the word on the screen in whatever font you have? The sound? This thread has covered a very wide range of pronunciations - do you dislike all of them?

Bertha is a lovely sounding name, and no, it's not polite to say it's ugly.
Blodwen is gorgeous in Carmarthen accent.
Áine is one of the most beautiful names ever, it means "radiant, awe inspiring", and the Áine I know is one of the most awesome people in the world. I am not a fan of Modern Irish spelling but that isn't terribly helpful to say on here.

Bertha is a lovely sounding name

Fact check: untrue

@StrychnineInTheSandwiches

I'm not saying it's Welsh, it is Welsh. I'm saying it's ugly. As that's my opinion.

I presume you're okay with me thinking Bertha is ugly?

Blodwen is welsh, Blodwyn isn't @StrychnineInTheSandwiches.

As I said, have the decency to spell it properly.

Seriously though, what are you adding to the conversation by saying you think it's ugly?

I'm indifferent to Áine, never said it was ugly. I just don't agree with people who say it's offensive if someone states that they find a particular name to be ugly. Rude if you say it to someone who bears that name, yes. But on a names board where people are canvassing opinions? Of course not.

You come across as rude @StrychnineInTheSandwiches. There is no need for it

Anyone who disagrees with you is rude no doubt.

Garlictwist said it was ugly, and you defended them.
I'm still not clear what it adds if you don't specify what aspect of the name you find ugly.