Bronwyn?

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Opinions on Bronwyn, or Bronwen? Although we don't have any Welsh connections, I really like the name!

Do you think it's a problem with DS1 name ending with similar sound - although 1 syllable- for example Glenn (not his actual name) and Bronwyn ?

Any other suggestions of girls' names I might like?

Bronwyn from Fireman Sam is one of the least annoying characters.

@Feelingofftoday

Do you even know what it means?

I'll never understand what possesses people to go on a baby names board and be utterly unnecessarily vile to the (presumably-pregnant-and-could-deal-without-the-stress) OP for no clear reason.

I think Bronwen is lovely and I know a couple who are a similar age to me.

"Most welcome. Nadolig Llawen."

Anyone else thinking "Wooo! Go @Glassofshloer!"

@glassofshloer, you win Mumsnet today

Love it

@Flutterflybutterby I was thinking this. They have form for it though. So unnecessary

Can't abide it. A 'wen' is a boil or a cyst, and I strongly dislike all names ending in those three letters. 'Bronwen' always puts me in the mind of a particularly humourless and officious receptionist who labels her pasta salad in the office fridge.

Oh my gosh… just imagine what kind of life one must have to get soooo angry about the choosing of a name beyond those invisible borders someone else has decided it must stay in. Ok… let me get really cross now at all the Luca, Francesca, Aurora, Matteo, Stefano of these forsaken island. Names which gets mispronounced, mispelled all the time and that we, the true and only legitimate bearer of those names, cannot even correct because what do we know.

Oh wait… I have a life and no such hung ups.

Also, why the need to be so rude gratuitiously - I’ll never understand. Sad sad lives.

Btw lovely names.

@Feelingofftoday

Cultural appropriation much?

Ffs. The perpetually offended. I’m Welsh, I’m not offended. My name is originally a French name, there’s a chance yours is different from your current nationality if you look at its etymology. Or are you saying all English people should only have Anglo-Saxon names, no Sarahs, no Michaels, no Jacobs no Isabelles, Freyas, Louies?

OP Bronwen is a beautiful name. The ‘wyn’ spelling is generally the male version just so you’re aware, in case that’d bother you. I know a few Bronwens and 2 of them aren’t Welsh and have no Welsh connections but then I know a Cameron with no Scottish connections, a Freya with no Scandinavian connections etc etc.

I really like Bronwen although I do prefer the y spelling, I had no idea that was the male equivalent.

Then again my name has 3 common spellings and I have the more unusual of the 3 - because it's the male varient - but it's never been an issue!

Bryony is nice too but say them out loud to check your accent, we had a Northern Irish teacher who used to call out "Briney" every day on the register..

My middle name is Bronwen (I am Welsh) and I like it and would have no worries about any other nationality using it, quite proud actually. I would go for the Wen version though as more traditional and respectful.

Cultural approximation lmao. DH and I are English, lived in Wales for the last decade and we have two children - one with a Scandinavian name and one with a Greek name. We're screwed clearly 😂

Honestly OP, use whichever name you like. Agree with others that wyn is typically an ending for male names so best sticking with wen. I know a few Bronwens and it's a lovely name.

@furbabymama87

Absolutely hate it. Ugly dumpling of a name.

Sadly have to agree with this

In the middle of the night I woke up thinking "Bronia" who was a character in "The Silver Sword" by Ian Serrailler. Ottomh i think it is a diminutive form of the Polish for Frances.

It's Bronwen (bron-when), not Bronwyn (bron-win). In Welsh names ending in wyn (win) are masculine, and wen (when) are feminine.

So Gwen is a girls name and Gwyn a boys name.

It's fine to use a name from another culture but I'd advise anyone considering doing so to make sure you are spelling and pronouncing it correctly first.

I know someone whose parents heard the name Olwen in Wales on holiday and loved it. They wanted to name their daughter Olwen but they misremembered the spelling and pronunciation (Ol-when) as Olwyn (Ol-win). Olwyn is the Welsh word for wheel and is very much not a Welsh name.

@crumblebug if you love it you should use it! There are so many made up or weirdly spelt hyphenated names nowadays I don't think Bram(well) would be that unusual lol.

His brother always used to call him Bram and I loved it

The "cultural appropriation" point is made a bit harshly above. However I do think it would be polite of people using names from other countries to learn the history of the name itself and of the language.
Brangwain is a character in the Mabinogion, the most significant set of stories in the Welsh language. The Mabinogion is garbled in both the manuscripts it appears in, as if compiled from memory and/or copied from fragments by scribes unfamiliar with the archaic language.
The Act of Union in 1536 made English the official legal language of Wales. Something to think about.
Calling a girl Bronwyn instead of Bronwen is most like calling a girl Martin instead of Marta. Is it a problem? IDK.

I only recently learnt that about the Wyn - male, Wen - female thing. So I'd have to honour it and go with Bronwen. It would just niggle at me otherwise and I'd feel self-conscious about Welsh people silently judging me on my ignorance.

@AuntDympna

The "cultural appropriation" point is made a bit harshly above. However I do think it would be polite of people using names from other countries to learn the history of the name itself and of the language. Brangwain is a character in the Mabinogion, the most significant set of stories in the Welsh language. The Mabinogion is garbled in both the manuscripts it appears in, as if compiled from memory and/or copied from fragments by scribes unfamiliar with the archaic language. The Act of Union in 1536 made English the official legal language of Wales. Something to think about. Calling a girl Bronwyn instead of Bronwen is most like calling a girl Martin instead of Marta. Is it a problem? IDK.

So? All names have a history, most people aren’t really aware of it when they choose a name, they just pick one they like. This is a case of a few people thinking ‘their culture’ is more special and worthy of respect than others. It really isn’t a big deal. I like the name OP.

@CaffiSaliMali

It's Bronwen (bron-when), not Bronwyn (bron-win). In Welsh names ending in wyn (win) are masculine, and wen (when) are feminine.

So Gwen is a girls name and Gwyn a boys name.

It's fine to use a name from another culture but I'd advise anyone considering doing so to make sure you are spelling and pronouncing it correctly first.

I know someone whose parents heard the name Olwen in Wales on holiday and loved it. They wanted to name their daughter Olwen but they misremembered the spelling and pronunciation (Ol-when) as Olwyn (Ol-win). Olwyn is the Welsh word for wheel and is very much not a Welsh name.

This can just be accent though - eg - in England Eleanor can be pronounced ELL-un-uh or ELL-in-uh depending on where you are -

Aaaargh spell check! "Brangwain" is a character in a French legend. My spell check is drunk.

@AuntDympna

Aaaargh spell check! "Brangwain" is a character in a French legend. My spell check is drunk.

Your spellcheck changed French to Welsh?

Bronya.A lot of Border Collies in Wales are Bronwyn

It reminded me of a character in neighbors years ago who had a sister called Sharon who was obviously many dress sizes bigger.

In one wtf scene Sharon borrowed a dress from her sister and with both in the same shot exclaimed "it fits like a glove". Sharon was probably a 16 and her sister an 8 if she was lucky. Me and my mum fell about laughing at that.

But it is a lovely name.

I went to school with one and she was a cow but otherwise a lovely name