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Welsh baby names but easy to pronounce

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pwywytti · 20/07/2020 22:55

Names that would work in Wales and England if possible.

So far like Gwyn, Gwen, Macsen... but need more suggestions.

Diolch!

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BackforGood · 20/07/2020 23:36

Olwen
Anwen
Catrin
Carys
Angharad

Gareth
Dylan
Griff
David (sort of international - a link to Wales, but different pronunciations around the world)

BackforGood · 20/07/2020 23:36

Rhys

redastherose · 20/07/2020 23:38

Cerys

rhia22 · 20/07/2020 23:42

i'm rhiannon and wouldn't reccomend as i constantly get rhiannin or rhiannen (even from family members!)

daisydalrymple · 20/07/2020 23:50

Cadi
Mali
Ffion
Tesni

converseandjeans · 21/07/2020 00:20

Seren
Elen
Catrin
Alys
Bethan
Megan

Rhys
Owen/Owain
Dylan

123Dancewithme · 21/07/2020 00:40

Alys
Anwen
Bethan
Carys
Nia
Seren
Megan
Bronwen
Elin
Gwyneth

Elis
Bryn
Evan
Idris
Aled
Morgan
Owen
Emlyn
Gareth
Glyn
Macsen

Runkle · 21/07/2020 00:58

Seren, Owen, Dylan, Megan, Catrin, Betsi, Elen/Elin, Bethan, Evan, Tomos, Marc, Lloyd, Steffan, Gethin, Bevan, Alwyn, Bryn, Daryn, Idris, Iola, Celyn/Kelyn, Merlyn, Morgan, Tristan, Rhett.

Scarby9 · 21/07/2020 01:01

Bryn

Ricekrispie22 · 21/07/2020 07:11

Meredith
Liliwen
Rowena
Rhian

Griff
Huw

CaffiSaliMali · 21/07/2020 11:22

Mari - currently top of my list
Elin
Elen
Tesni
Nia (although it might sound more like Near in England)
Eira (although you may get the ra pronounced ruh instead of ra as in rabbit)
Mali
Alys
Sali
Nansi
Elsi
Lili
Carys
Cerys
Nerys
Catrin

I would normally say Eleri too, but I encountered some confusion on another thread as to how it could rhyme with Terry and Kerry rather than celery, so perhaps it's not as easy as I once thought!

Tomos - will get Thomas, but my English DH has learned to pronounce it, so not impossible. This is on my list. Twm is a cute family nickname option. He can go by Tom at school if he likes.
Macsen - also on my list. I think this will be mispronounced as 'Max-un' instead of 'MACS-en' (en as in pen and hen)
Osian - also on my list! You will probably get 'OSH-un' instead of 'OSH-an'. You'll get Ocean a few times too. I don't think it's too difficult for people to learn though.
Aled - everyone knows how to pronounce due to Aled Jones but it is a bit dated
Alun - will get Alan, but I like Alan too, even if it is a Grandad name.
Owen
Gwion
Gruff/Griff

My Welsh name is commonly mispronounced, but it doesn't really bother me - I've only ever lived in England so I'm used to it*. It mainly bothers me when people want to call me by the English version instead, or ask if they can call me Sophie, for example, 'as it's easier'.

*although every time I think I've encountered every possible misspelling of my name I encounter a new one Grin

You need to think if you can live with any likely mispronuncuation. So I could live with Thomas instead of Tomos, or Ey-ruh instead of Eira, for example, but someone else may not.

IVflytrap · 21/07/2020 12:30

Mabli

ArseyWelshNameBore · 21/07/2020 13:56

It depends by what you mean by work in Wales and England.

Are you living in Wales in a welsh-speaking area, speak Welsh, and want something current but that would not be mangled, or are you in England but would like something Welsh and aren't too bothered about popularity or the name being dated or getting anglicised?

You will get suggestions that are very dated, or are misspelt (usually -wyn on girls' names) or are not welsh (Rowena, Meredith), or that will be virtually unpronounceable if you don't speak Welsh.

If you don't speak Welsh, I'd opt for something like David, Daniel, Martha or Elizabeth and use a full-on Welsh middle name.

From your OP, I'd say that you do speak Welsh, and your suggestions are fine, but Gwyn and Gwen will have the vowels interchanged quite often (Gywn, Gewn), and will be assumed to be of the opposite sex Confused.
Macsen will get Maxon, and people might get sneery about it being chav (pah!)

I have worked in the Welsh borders a fair bit, and colleagues sometimes had welsh names, so have heard the anglicised forms. Arwel being called Ah-wul, Huw Hoo, Dewi Dowey, Eirian Erry-un, Mari Mahri/Maree, Ceri Serri/Surrey/Cherry/Cherie, Rhian Ree-un, Ree-Anne, Eleri Ellery/Ell-Airy etc.

It also depends on your surname.
You could use a welsh form of your surname but only if the whole name is very welsh.

My usual suggestion when I haven't NC is
avoid:
C or G before an i, e, or y
Vowel combinations like ae, au, ai, ei, eu, ew, ia, ie, uw, wy
Letter combinations like ngh, si, ar
The letters dd, f, ll, rh, ch, u
Names ending in -an, -en, -a, -yr, -ir, -o and -in, and sometimes -wyn and -wen.

It will narrow your list considerably.

The 'welsh name' web pages usually contain some bonkers suggestions.

ArseyWelshNameBore · 21/07/2020 18:43

Avoid:
C or g before an i, e, or y
The letters ch, dd, f, ll, rh, u, and y (if it normally gives a uh sound)
Vowel combinations like ae, ai, au, ei, eu, ew, ia, ie, io, iw, ow, uw, wy, and yw
Letter combinations like ar, ngh, si,
Names ending in -a, -an, -en, -in, -ir, -o, -ol, -on and -in, ur, -yr, and sometimes -wyn and -wen.
Names of more than one or two syllables

The name won't be bombproof, but it will reduce the chances of a lifetime of having the name misspelt and mispronounced.

MissHoney85 · 21/07/2020 22:46

I know of both a boy and a girl called Teifi - not strictly a name I think but a river in North Wales. I think it's quite nice.

DCIRozHuntley · 21/07/2020 22:52

Macsen will get Maxon, and people might get sneery about it being chav (pah!)

Grin very true. It does get lumped in with Jackson / Paxton / Braxton. It depends if you mind the blunter Maxun pronunciation too, it isn't a deal breaker for everyone. Would you consider it an awful faux pas or just a regional accent? The same can be said for a lot of Welsh names - well, any names actually. It's always worth checking them out in your regional accent!

IVflytrap · 22/07/2020 08:02

Gwyn and Gwen will have the vowels interchanged quite often (Gywn, Gewn), and will be assumed to be of the opposite sex

I'm a bit confused by this and may be misunderstanding you. Are you saying that English people will spell or pronounce a common name like Gwen, "Gewn", and believe Gwen to be a boy's name? I can understand how Gwyn could potentially be interpreted wrongly, as people might mentally link it to a name like Guinevere and assume female, but Gwen is a very well-known girls name in England too. I've never seen/heard of Gewn or Gywn as misinterpretarions of the names. If you mean typos because you're typing too fast or whatever, fair enough but otherwise neither of those work in England at all, spelling-wise, or pronunciation-wise, really.

ArseyWelshNameBore · 22/07/2020 15:36

@IVflytrap It is as you think.

I've seen newspaper articles with welsh names misspelt in this way plenty of times (Yes, I mean you Lsia Arsmtrong, that celebrity is Gwyneth not Gywneth, no matter how many times you get it wrong in one article), on mail for family members etc.

I grew up in Clwyd, frequently written as Clywd and occasionally as Clyde. The vowels w and y aren't vowels in English, which might explain the confusion.

Another newspaper one was the local company being described as being scottish. It's based in Deeside, in Wales.

ArseyWelshNameBore · 22/07/2020 15:57

The reason I post is because I have seen or heard these things.
Either you won't mind, put up with it or you'll cringe every time you hear or see your name mangled.

Wyn and Gwyn are not obviously boy's names if you are not familiar with the names.

I forgot that Gwen will get called Glen(n) sometimes and sometimes Gwyn.

Wtfdidwedo · 22/07/2020 16:02

A lot of the suggestions on his thread are definitely not easily pronounced in both Wales and England. I've heard Ffion pronounced fuh-fee-on and Bryn as brine for starters Grin very few names probably pass the test!

toriaplum · 22/07/2020 16:22

I also think that any name begin with "Rh" is often mispronounced. We went on holiday to England. Our Ds spent the week being called Rodney or Rod-er-ee.

ArseyWelshNameBore · 22/07/2020 17:15

Rh is quite difficult to say unless you've said it for years. Rid-yun is nowhere near as nice as Rhydian.

ArseyWelshNameBore · 22/07/2020 17:15

Brine for Bryn is a new one on me.

Saw Dylis on another thread. Those tricky vowels again.

ArseyWelshNameBore · 22/07/2020 17:17

I saw Dylen suggested as a unisex name on a thread. Hmm, take a welsh boy's name, anglicise it and then misspell it and make it unisex.
Oh yeah, Meredith.

ArseyWelshNameBore · 22/07/2020 17:17

I'd forgotten about place names, but some of the towns and villages have 'unpronounceable' names. It seems it is OK for someone to correct me when I say Guild-fud (Guildford) but not for me to say it's it's not Rooth-in (Ruthin).

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