Second middle name Eirinn for our unborn son.

[Sethmomma]

I am expecting my fourth child a boy. My sister law is name Erin Samantha. I wanted to name my son Samuel Seth Eirinn. The name Samantha is another form of Samuel. The name Seth is after my son that passed away. The name Eirinn is another form of the name Erin. Eirinn also means Ireland. My husband is half Irish. In Ireland Eirinn is pronounced Erin but some people might pronounced the name Eirinn different. Eirinn is considered to be a girl's name but has a special meaning to us. Eirinn will be considered to a second middle name. Nothing is set in stone but my husband likes Eirinn. We are not looking to expand our family. I'm mother of four beautiful children.

I think you should use it. My Dad's Mum's family came out to Ireland before she was born. Funnily my baby Sister was born and called Erin while my Nan was on holiday back home in Ireland.

I've never seen Eirinn as an alternative form of Erin, but I think it looks very feminine, much more so than Erin in fact.

I have met a couple of boys called Erin here in Ireland so it is occasionally used as a boys' name. Google tells me Erin is unisex while Eirinn is a girls' name.

So if you want to use it, I'd use the spelling Erin.

You are naming him after other people.
Just pick names you like.

Eirinn is a girl's name. And it's definitely pronounced Erin.

I've not seen Eirinn before; personally I'd just spell it Erin as it's simpler and less likely to be misspelt.

I don't see any problems with it being a "girls' name", however. You're proposing it as a middle name, and a second middle at that. If girls can get the first names James, Parker, Campbell, Maxwell and who knows what else without anybody batting an eye these days, a boy can certainly have the middle name Eirinn/Erin and live to tell the tale.

Why name him completely after others? Could you choose something just for him?

I'm terribly sorry for your loss but I really caution against giving your new baby his deceased brother's name as a middle name. I understand that you want to honour your son but your new baby deserves to be able to establish his own identity. Perhaps just one of his three names could be a tribute to a family member.

I’m not a fan of the name Eirinn and I don’t see why you’re using versions of both your sisters names, just use Samuel

I agree with PP that your DS deserves at least one name that is just his, not named after someone else. Preferably his first name!

Thanks for the input.

Éirinn is the tuiseal ginideach of Éireann, the genitive case. Nouns in the Irish language change depending on how the sentence relates to them. So the country is Éireann - that's a stand-alone word - but if you were to say ''in Ireland" it's "in Éirinn". Éirinn cannot stand alone. That makes it an odd choice to an Irish speaker.

I had a Welsh uncle by marriage called “Ire-inn” but I’ve no idea how it was spelt or what it means!

@Sgtmajormummy, Euryn. Difficult to explain how to say it - your uncle was probably from S. Wales. It sounds like halfway between Airrin and Irrin. Sort of E-irrin but the E and i run into each other.

@MikeUniformMike
Thanks for that! I looked it up and it means “Golden”. Not bad, but a huge mispronunciation risk, OP.

I agree with @villainous that, Éirinn ( or variations) feels odd to use as a stand-alone name.

However, ultimately it is your choice to make and as essentially a third (and so rarely to be used) name, it should not pose problems.

I was given three names at birth (and needed to take a fourth for a religious reason) and I only ever use all of my three names for passport renewals and other similar things.

Yes, Sgt, it does mean Golden or the golden one. There is Eurwyn too, - that is golden+blessed, and would be an old man's name now. Euros is nice but, like Euryn, the pronunciation is not obvious. Neither name is much used. Euros is something like Ey-ross, but that isn't quite it.

Eirin is welsh for plums and isn't a name.

Aneirin is nice.

Back to OP. The names you have chosen are fine. Good luck,