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Welsh names any suggestions.

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Goodmornfelds · 19/02/2020 08:05

My husband and I are Welsh (South Wales) and live in the east of England.

We are keen to use Welsh names...we are not concerned about making a Welsh name anglicised.
What are your favourite girl/boy names? I need a bit of inspiration.

Thank you all x

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ShivD · 19/02/2020 21:31

@blondemerida why is Dylan so hard for people (thinking of my DH here) my uncle is Dylan and my husband just can’t get it no matter how much time I spend breaking it down for him! Dull-ann

Don’t get me started on Llanelli where I’m from Grin

Saisong · 19/02/2020 21:38

I used Seren & Bryn, live in England but originate from Anglesey (waves to the other islanders out there)

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MikeUniformMike · 19/02/2020 23:19

The use of welsh names by non-welsh speakers is the reason that names like Dylan and Rhys are now mainstream as Dillun and Rees.
Both are nice in Welsh.
Rhian is now Ree-un or Ree-Ann, Rhiannon Ree-Annun... it's such a shame.

There are plenty of names that work perfectly ok in other accents or languages.

What sort of surname do you have OP? Is it something very popular like Jones or Williams?

One option if you want to mark the welshness is to use ap or erch.
Something like Griff ap Dadsname or Sali erch Dadsname.

IthinkIsawahairbrushbackthere · 19/02/2020 23:25

For girls I like
Eirlys
Cadi
Mabli
Carys
Bethan

Boys:
Macsen
Osian
Caradoc
Iolo
Illtyd

KellyHall · 19/02/2020 23:33

I am Welsh, living in England. My dd is called Carys. People have called her Paris numerous times, I just correct them.

English people get English names wrong and have to be corrected. Don't choose a name for your child based on anyone's opinion but your own.

The funniest thing though is when Carys looks at photos of me and dh in Paris and doesn't seem to understand we're not saying Carys when we tell her the name of the place 🤣

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Cbeebiesrehab · 20/02/2020 11:39

Welsh living in England here too. Names I would have used if I had gone with the welsh theme:

Efa
Mabli

Elis
Macsen

Easy enough to pronounce but an obvious welsh link imo.

Epmama · 20/02/2020 21:35

I love Haf for a girl. Does anyone know if it should be Haf or Hâf?

Is Teleri pronounced Til-air-ree?

Saisong · 20/02/2020 22:19

Yes Hâf should have the circumflex (or tô bach - little roof) as it elongates the 'a' sound. Making it kinda like 'Haav'.

Teleri is a bit harder. I would put the emphasis on the middle syllable so more like 'Teh-LEH-ree'. It's hard to describe Welsh pronunciation!

Darkhome · 20/02/2020 22:29

No, Haf definitely doesn't have the circumflex...
welshgirlsnames.co.uk/haf/

Saisong · 20/02/2020 23:41

I accept I might be wrong (I'm second language Welsh) - though my friend does spell it Hâf. Did I get Teleri wrong too (also based on friends names)

Darkhome · 21/02/2020 07:26

Mae Teleri yn gywir 🙂

CaffiSaliMali · 21/02/2020 08:32

I'd rhyme Teleri with Terry and Kerry, as in Eleri - Tell-erry.

MikeUniformMike · 21/02/2020 08:38

Teleri is pronounced Tell Erry.
Meleri is pronounced Mel Erry.
Eleri is pronounced El Erry
Ceri is pronounced Kerry

See the pattern?

If you do not speak Welsh and are from South Wales, it might sound a bit like Till Airy or Tell Airy, but that is regional accent.

Eleri was a very popular name for baby girls in the 1950s and 1960s. I know several, all from N. Wales. All say it as El-ERR-y to rhyme with Kerry. I know a Teleri, she says it as Tel-ERR-y.
They can't all be wrong.

If it was Tel-Airy then Ceri would be pronounced Carey.

OwlBeThere · 21/02/2020 10:59

@Darkhome Hâf absolutely does have the circumflex, otherwise it would be pronounced like Have, with a short a. It’s Haav with a long a so needs there accent.

I’m from South Wales and we would pronounce Eleri/Teleri with a long flat a sound in the middle. It’s hard to describe in text!

MikeUniformMike · 21/02/2020 11:28

Haf does not have a circumflex. It is the welsh word for Summer and has been used as s name for decades.

CaffiSaliMali · 21/02/2020 11:45

No circumflex on Haf - have one in the family.

People often get Welsh names wrong - I have a school friend with a middle name of Olwyn, which is the Welsh word for wheel. Her parents heard the name Olwen in Wales, thought it was lovely but got it wrong when registering her. In Welsh names ending in 'wen' are feminine and 'wyn' masculine. 'Wen' and 'wyn' often misheard in England - hence why Bronwyn is often suggested as a girls name on here, when it's actually Bronwen.

MikeUniformMike · 21/02/2020 12:17

Many of the suggestions on here are wrong.
Bronwyn comes up again and again - it is Bronwen. It is cringeworthy to see Olwyn given as a name.

I've seen suggested meanings of names, fairly random nouns used as name suggestions. Suggested pronunciations can be off-mark.

Most of the suggestions are of dated names or names that are currently very popular. A bit like if a current english name thread suggested Olivia, Ava, Eva, Ivy, Mia, Debbie, Tracey, Sharon, Jackie and Doris or something.

MikeUniformMike · 21/02/2020 12:35

Sorry OP, I seem to have taken over.
Could I suggest a rarely used name that I think is lovely.
Sior.
It is pronounced Shore. It is welsh for George.
For a girl: Elen. (EL-en) A MNer has a daughter called it and it is short, sweet, and uncomplicated.

CaffiSaliMali · 21/02/2020 12:52

My Mam laughed out loud at Olwyn when I told her. Fortunately it's only a middle name so she can go to Wales and not attract the giggles!

A shame, because Olwen is lovely. It highlights the importance of being very careful when choosing a name from another language for your child and making sure you've got it right.

MikeUniformMike · 21/02/2020 13:33

Ted Hughes had a sister called Olwyn.

If you pick a noun or an adjective don't rely on google translate or similar for confirmation of meaning.

The Welsh Name web sites sometimes list names that are not welsh and that are not names, or get the sex wrong.

Recent threads on here have listed: Idris (welsh but rarely used), Geraint (too difficult outside Wales), Bryn (middle-aged), Aled, Ioan, Iwan, Rhodri and Elis; I suspect that celebrities have influenced these suggestions.

ultrababy · 21/02/2020 14:47

Waves to @ShivD 👋🏻

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