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What makes a name officially ‘made up’

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ikeakia · 24/01/2020 06:48

And why can’t you have a ‘made up’ name without Judgement?

Surely all names were made up at some point, even those with a very long history. Someone had to be the first one to use it and why are we so against that now? When does it become a ‘name’ in it’s own right?

Btw, I’m not talking about ‘yoo-nique’ spellings or presentations of established names.

I mean more ones you’ve conjured out of the air yourself or perhaps combination names from one or more other names to create something unheard of.

I’ve noticed there seems to be a real thing on here about declaring that names are or sound made up (even if they aren’t, just very uncommon) which often goes with the poster not liking the name. Just wondered other posters thoughts?

For what it’s worth, I have one child who goes by an unusual animal name, not bear/fox/wolf but a feminine one. And one with a combination name that is mostly easy to say/pronounce and sounds like a proper name anyway.

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NotNowPlzz · 24/01/2020 16:20

Why on Earth do people think it's acceptable to make negative comments about your son's name? How bloody rude.

You sound lovely btw.

Namechange8471 · 24/01/2020 17:26

What makes a name officially ‘made up’

Ok, opinions will vary, but my opinion is names such as your son’s. Two very lovely names made into one that doesn’t really make sense.

Also agree with pp, butterfly is fine as a nickname for a 8 year old, however personally, I’d refer to her by her actual name, as it’s lovely!

THIS IS JUST MY OPINION!!

Aderyn19 · 24/01/2020 17:47

When I opened this thread I immediately thought of Renesmee Grin
In all honesty I think Dracob sounds like you didn't know how to pronounce Jacob. You might think that people shouldn't be judgy or that all names were originally made up at one point, but people will judge and it's your child that will have to put up with it.

ikeakia · 24/01/2020 17:56

I don’t mind people judging, and he’s got bigger worries than a name and a lot of confidence. I didn’t ask for opinions on his name or judgement on this thread, but that’s what I accept I get.

My opinion and my children’s is that their names suit them, they like them and anyone’s personal opinions on those particular names isn’t really relevant to this thread.

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BlueBirdGreenFence · 24/01/2020 17:59

Is Butterfly a nickname or her legal name? Because that's two very different scenarios. All it made me think was you better hope she's confident in her body! Kids always shorten names and they'll probably end up calling her Butter Shock.

ikeakia · 24/01/2020 18:04

Kids at school do sometimes call her Butter, I just asked her, she said she doesn’t mind and likes it, but mostly they call her Butterfly or Buttercup.

It’s her birth certificate middle name.

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Pieceofpurplesky · 24/01/2020 18:31

OP ignore the comments - children grow in to whatever name they have. I am a teacher and have taught some interesting names and combinations - never yet met one who didn't suit the name he had. I would assume Dracob was an old family name.

kittykat7210 · 24/01/2020 18:39

Someone I know called their child ‘aargonella’ which I don’t think is a name...

ikeakia · 24/01/2020 18:54

kittykat7210

Well it is now!

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TatianaLarina · 25/01/2020 00:43

Dracob doesn’t sound E.European- that would be Jakob/ub.

It sounds like some kind of joke, poor child.

StCharlotte · 25/01/2020 00:54

There was an actress in Gone with the Wind called Butterfly McQueen which is quite cool.

HeadLikeAFuckinOrange · 25/01/2020 01:27

Smashing two perfectly good ones together to create a Franken-Name definitely counts as made up!

mathanxiety · 25/01/2020 06:21

Personal opinions is what it's all about though, when it comes to names or any other aspect of personal presentation. We all form opinions, and our minds form associations.

The form our preferences take is dictated by our culture. British culture tends to be suspicious of difference - tall poppy syndrome if you will.

I live in the US and would automatically assume a child named Octavia Butterfly was African American, both because of Octavia and also the Butterfly reference (McQueen, the actress).

Dracob I don't know - I can see what you did and appreciate why, but I think you fundamentally altered two names you liked to create the hybrid. Not sure names are really the sum of their parts like that.

ikeakia · 25/01/2020 07:53

I don’t deny his name is made up. Quite honestly I don’t see the problem with ‘made up’ names. There’s some I wouldn’t use but I can still appreciate them as good names. I just don’t get the dislike that surrounds such names just because they’re not centuries old with scores of people who have been called it.

Dracob is a lovely name as far as I’m concerned. I’m not asking anyone to agree, but he’s 10 now and very confident, not held back by his ‘made up’ name at all.

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Happityhap · 25/01/2020 09:30

As an aside, a Polish friend once commented that she finds it confusing that, in the UK, many names are unisex e.g. Riley, Jamie, Alex, etc.

My adult DS has changed his middle name from a traditional British one to a foreign name that is not made-up but is fairly obscure.

LittleRa · 25/01/2020 09:43

OP do you have other children (as you mention Butterfly’s sister was the first to call her that), and if so what are their names?

Thinking of Butterfly as an adult with a serious job- didn’t too Lady Bird Johnson (First Lady of the United States) any harm.

bridgetreilly · 25/01/2020 10:15

didn’t too Lady Bird Johnson (First Lady of the United States) any harm.

Whose actual name was Claudia.

LittleRa · 25/01/2020 10:22

bridgetreilly Yes, and this little girl’s actual name is Octavia.

emilybrontescorsett · 25/01/2020 11:00

I would assume Dracob was Eatern European too.
Sounds quite harsh a d dark sounding (just my opinion). Octavia reminds me of the bird from an old children's programme, Pipkins.

TeacupDrama · 25/01/2020 11:09

Jacob Rees Mogg called his son Sixtus which kind of derived from Greek for polished some people thought it meant sixth as sixth child but sixth is actually Sextus in Latin

Happityhap · 25/01/2020 11:12

Polished?
Sixtus is still a stupid name, especially for a sixth child.

Historyisdifficult · 25/01/2020 11:20

I don't think you'll find too many folk starting to use Dracob to be fair. .wonder if he'll change it to Jacob when he's older?

As for Butterfly, possibly at 3 not so 33.

Historyisdifficult · 25/01/2020 11:21

They're definitely Jacob Rees Mogg sort of names!

Totaloptout · 25/01/2020 11:27

People are rude on this thread. Love Butterfly as a nn and great she has options if she decides othwrsise. The only really made up name that I will never consider is a name is 'abcde' pronounced absidee. There is a report on googlw which shows its a name of some poor kid.

ikeakia · 25/01/2020 15:33

Time will tell I guess. It’ll be their choice if they change but I really can’t see it. They both have other more common names to fall back on.

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