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First and second names which mean the same thing

38 replies

Minesril · 12/11/2019 17:25

I really like Jacob James. But a quick google revealed that James is the English version of Jacob. How much of a problem is this? Has anyone done similar?

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NameChangeNugget · 12/11/2019 17:26

No one will really give a shiny shit.

Go for it.

Bigoldwimp · 12/11/2019 17:34

Lovely combo.
Approved :) !

OctopusNow · 12/11/2019 17:44

I know a Jacob James and nobody has ever commented to my knowledge.
Tbh, he just gets called Jake most of the time.

PsychosonicCindy · 12/11/2019 17:51

It doesn't matter at all no-one will even realise.
My dd3 has 3 names (first and 2 middle) and all three mean "god loving" just coincidence I didn't even know until I looked them up and I'd already decided! And I'm not even religious any way.

Marlena1 · 12/11/2019 17:53

I know a family with a John, Ian, Sean and Jack. That's all the same name. I don't think people notice.

yellowallpaper · 12/11/2019 18:25

Seriously, do you expect they will be introduced as xyz and someone immediately starts googling the meaning of their name?

MissHenty · 12/11/2019 20:16

Lovely combo @Minesril

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DramaAlpaca · 12/11/2019 21:45

I'd notice & would think it a bit odd. Sorry.

foxatthewindow · 12/11/2019 21:49

My DH wanted to do this with our eldest. We chose an anglicised version of a name from his culture, he wanted the original name as the middle name, but I vetoed. Somehow we ended up with the original name as a middle name for our second child, which I still find odd but whatever...

VanyaHargreeves · 12/11/2019 21:57

Put it this way it is not Jamie-James which I once was baffled by in a Baby Name section of a paper

Disfordarkchocolate · 12/11/2019 21:59

I was this before I got married, nobody noticed but me.

EmmaGrundyForPM · 12/11/2019 21:59

I know someone with 2 dd called Erin and Tara. I do think it's a bit odd but also appreciate that its her decision and probably a lot of people wouldn't even notice.

VanessaShanessaJenkins · 12/11/2019 22:00

How are John, Ian, Sean and Jack the same name? Confused

VanessaShanessaJenkins · 12/11/2019 22:01

Erin and tara?
I think I need to get googling

highheelsandweathercocks · 12/11/2019 22:06

If DS2 had been a girl, he was due to be Isabel. I had always wanted to use Elizabeth as a middle name but then realised that Isabel is the Spanish form of Elizabeth, so I was put off.
However everyone else thought I was mad, so the consensus is to go for it.
My brother is Sean, my dad is John. It wasn't until he was about 5 that anyone clicked that they were the 'same'. Because they're names in their own right.

VanyaHargreeves · 12/11/2019 22:10

Jack is a NN of John hence John F Kennedy often referred to as "Jack"

Sean is the Irish form of John

Is Ian the welsh?

MittensForKittens123 · 12/11/2019 22:17

Iain is the Scots Gaelic version of John

Mishfit0819 · 12/11/2019 22:21

Personally I wouldn't have linked Jacob and James. It sounds like a lovely name OP. I do think it depends on origins though and people's familiarity I. E. I'm Scottish and if I heard a Hamish James it would be.. Confused Hmm

BikeRunSki · 12/11/2019 22:26

I'd notice & would think it a bit odd. Sorry.

Me too.
I think it’s fairly well known that James is derived from Jacob, as in Jacobean relating to the time of King James 1st of England /6th of Scotland.

Mevernind · 12/11/2019 22:29

They're different enough that most people won't notice or if they do will be polite enough not to comment.

I do know someone who named her son Billy with a middle name of William - which seemed sort of pointless. And went to school with a David Davidson - which was either really mean or really lazy of his parents.

yourestandingonmyneck · 12/11/2019 22:59

Do you mean James is the surname? In that case I think it's fine.

Or is it first name and middle name? If so, I can see both sides to it. Although it definitely isn't as noticeably odd as the Billy William mentioned above!

BlackAmericanoNoSugar · 12/11/2019 23:11

I think most people wouldn't know that they were versions of the same name, and anyway middle names are almost never used so it wouldn't matter.

Minesril · 13/11/2019 17:18

No, James would be the middle name. I guess nobody does give their middle name so no-one would know! We were going to call him JJ for short (or he can use that with his friends).
To a previous pp, funnily enough we were considering Elizabeth Isabelle had it been a girl!

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bridgetreilly · 13/11/2019 19:15

It's not that they mean the same thing, it's that they literally are versions of the same name. I would think it a bit weird, tbh, but it's not a big deal.

MollyButton · 13/11/2019 19:20

I would notice. But I wouldn't say anything.
I'm still curious why some ancestors called their only two daughters Elizabeth and Eliza (2 years apart both survived to adulthood, no indication of ill health in either).

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