Liam

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What are your thoughts on the name Liam? Not short for William, just Liam.

NoSauce what just because I think teachers who judge kids by their given name are snobs

Sorry not all of us are elitist

Not a fan and every Liam I know (I am Irish) is short for William. I found it quite funny when I met a family in Australia with a Liam and a William.

It’s nothing to do with being elitist. If a someone teaches children every year called “Ryan” or “Ben” or whatever who are naughty of course she’s going to have preconceptions about the name.

You are being weirdly defensive here.

All Irish boys' names are naughty boy names on MN.

All Irish boys' names are naughty boy names on MN.

Indeed, MindyStClaire. Annoying, isn't it?

Oasis

That is all

Beautiful name, suits any age, and he's likely to be the only one in his class (not like the Ollie / Alfie / Jack brigade!).

All Irish boys' names are naughty boy names on MN

Which names?

Any mainstream Irish boys name gets that comment. Liam, Shane, Sean, Conor, Aidan. I'm sure there are plenty of others. Once you notice it you really notice it. Names that are basically the equivalent of James in Ireland get very different comments on here.

Shane, Sean and Conor are very dated. So I’m surprised anyone relates to them as naughty boys names.

@Newday1 I think you’re incredibly sensitive about this. And I highly doubt you don’t make assumptions every day from tiny snippets of information about a person. If you were told you were meeting someone called Sharon you wouldn’t be looking out for a 20 year old man.

Agreeing with @MindyStClaire and @DramaAlpaca that completely standard Irish boys’ names — the equivalent of Edward, Thomas, Thomas — attract incredible amounts of prejudice on Mn (and presumably, if this site is a barometer, in the country as a whole.)

Liam is popular amongst the travelling community here. As is (generalised) tradition in travellers, I believe, the name is perpetuated by being named for relatives...named for dad or grandad or uncle etc.

We had a line of travellers called Liam start at my school in the ‘80s, they’d spent so much time jumping from school to school that they were probably insecure and thus pretty disruptive in class. It would probably have tainted opinions on the name.

Names aren’t a decider for behaviour, but some kids who are predisposed to less desirable behaviours (having parents who are obnoxious or antisocial, for example) might have similar names...at a stretch!! 🤷‍♀️

It might, therefore, make sense that some Irish names, which are popular in travelling communities, would have similar grounds???

It might, therefore, make sense that some Irish names, which are popular in travelling communities, would have similar grounds???

Only among ridiculously prejudiced people. Whose prejudice somehow does not extend from demonising Traveller girls to demonising Irish girls' names as a whole, as Irish girls' names tend to be greeted with great enthusiasm on Mn...? Or are there no 'naughty girl' names?

Ah, but only boys are naughty, didnt you know frangible?

No, it's only boys with Irish names that are naughty

It’s a great name

No negative connotations here