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Naming a baby after someone who died

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mrsmamaleone · 13/07/2019 02:49

This is an odd question but it's been on my mind. My husband and I have planned on having three kids total. We have a daughter already, and our second daughter is due very soon. Our last child will be a boy. We already know this because we had to harvest eggs and fertilize them before my husband had radiation and chemo several years ago.

This is dilemma. My mother was in a long-term relationship before she met my father. She and this man were absolutely head over heels in love with each other. Unfortunately the man developed a very aggressive cancer that was detected too late and he died. My mother spent a literal year of her life nursing him through his illness. He died and about six months later she met my dad and they eloped. Very unexpected, very sudden, as it had only been six months since the boyfriend died.

My parents have been very happy and married for nearly 40 years. I'm one of their youngest children. Mom never talks about the boyfriend who died. She mentioned him maybe four times total. He is her Jack Dawson. I've heard stories about them from other people.

I am in love with the name John. It's classic, it's clean, it goes well with our daughters' names. But, it's the name of the old boyfriend, the one who died forty years ago.

My husband also equally loves it. We're just not sure if it would be okay to name our future son John knowing that it's the name of the man my mother was going to marry before he got sick.

I haven't brought it up with her yet because it'll be a few years before we're even ready to use this last egg and have our son. Hell, I'm still pregnant with one kid!

Then there's my dad to consider. He's never begrudged my mother her love for this man he never knew. He's always understood something very tragic happened in my mother's life and that they wouldn't have ever met or married if this man hadn't died. He's never taken her for granted because of this fact. She's always loved him so much because she knows how easily he could be taken from her. I'm very happy to say that even now, in their 60s, their relationship is one of passion and love. They're an example I hope to follow.

What is the opinion then, on using the name when it has a different meaning for my mother, and to a lesser extent, my father, the man who almost wasn't?

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MyOtherProfile · 13/07/2019 03:22

If she doesn't talk about him much, and his name isn't always bandied about I don't think it's a problem, although I would probably check with your dad first.

Birdie6 · 13/07/2019 03:32

I wouldn't go there. There is just too much baggage attached to the name. Your Mum may not talk much about the man , but that probably means that in her heart there is a very special and private place which is occupied by John. And for your father, the name John would be " the one who my wife loved so much , and if he'd not died he'd be the child's grandfather ".

Don't do this to either of them. Be sensitive to their feelings and look for something else. The fact they don't talk about this man, doesn't mean that it's OK to resurrect him in this name - honestly it would be cruel to do this to both of them, specially your Dad.

Shadow1234 · 13/07/2019 04:06

I wouldn't do it either. (for the same reasons as Birdie6 mentioned).

mrsmamaleone · 13/07/2019 04:08

Y'all have given me some really good advice. There a several names to choose from. I don't want anyone to be hurt whenever they think about my future son. Thanks!

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MilenaMay · 13/07/2019 04:21

No I wouldnt.
It's a sad story but it's not your story.
And I think your parents own long and enduring love story is the one that should be remembered if youre choosing a name linked to a love story.

hipstercat · 13/07/2019 04:35

Your story made me cry (in my very pregnant sleepless state Wink)! I wouldn't announce the name without having checked how both your parents feel about it. But I would ask them about it, because maybe they don't mind at all. They might even like the idea, you never know. Unless you think just bringing it up would be too painful, though it sounds like they are at peace enough with the memory to be able to discuss it.

Fucket · 13/07/2019 04:58

I don’t think you can use the name.

You will cause some hurt even if nothing is said, and they pretend otherwise.

Don’t do it.

EdtheBear · 13/07/2019 05:21

I'd say no. Pick a different name, Mark or Luke are good alternatives.

However please keep it in mind not all embryos become children. Don't plan your life around having a third child.

Podemos · 13/07/2019 05:35

I don't think you need to be even thinking of it yet. Just focus on the children you do have.

I've never heard anyone who has had IVF talk in the way you are : ie. 'My husband and I have planned on having three kids total.' I'm not sure how to say it without sounding heartless, but if you have only have one embryo left (although you call it an egg at one point?) then surely you know that the chances of this resulting in a baby are very very far from guaranteed. I admire your positivity but I'm not sure it's healthy to talk about this embryo in terms of it definitely being your future son.

Why not just wait and see if this ever even becomes an issue you need to face?

Aquamarine1029 · 13/07/2019 05:41

When the time comes, why don't you just ask your mum about it? She may not mind at all. She might even be happy to have a lovely living memory of someone she cared about so much.

Aus84 · 13/07/2019 05:47

I don't think you should make a decision either way until you have a quiet chat with your mum ( and then you dad).

ThanksItHasPockets · 13/07/2019 07:05

I agree with @Podemos.

Frith2013 · 13/07/2019 11:43

I take it you’re not in the U.K.?

Bellsandholly · 13/07/2019 12:26

I love the name John
I think you can use it but only after talking to your parents

BarryBarryTaylor · 13/07/2019 15:57

You aren’t there yet. No need to worry about it for the time being.

I would just concentrate on this pregnancy and when the time comes to naming a boy, then think about it.
I wouldn’t use the name because I think it puts a lot of pressure on the child and yourself. You never know how your mom May feel about it. Yes no one owns a name, but when you have such highly charged emotions, it isn’t that black and white, if you see what I mean.

mrsmamaleone · 15/07/2019 08:06

@Frith2013

no, I'm in the American south, but I prefer mumsnet to the American boards. it's much more civilized, and might I add, you guys have much better grammar? My husband is English from Manchester, and for a brief time we lived in Dorset. Now we're back over here and I hate it. I miss England but my husband's career has taken him to my home state.

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Pinktinker · 15/07/2019 11:29

Nope, I wouldn’t do this. It will rake up too many sore memories for your Mum.

septembersunshine · 15/07/2019 18:21

Maybe go for Jack (a nick name to John). I wouldn't use John either.

Tillygetsit · 15/07/2019 23:01

Jack is a good compromise. I second Jack.

PrincessLouis · 15/07/2019 23:23

I agree with the others. I also love John but didn’t use it for family reasons. What about Charles? Especially lovely for an American boy as you have Charles Ingalls, Laura Ingalls Wilder’s beloved Pa. Good luck with this baby and the next Flowers

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