Fleur or Fflur?

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So we like the name Fleur and it has family meaning but DH has Welsh roots and would like something that links with that so we are considering Fflur (fl-eer). Our surname also begins with F and is a two syllable name.

Just wondered what people thought and if outside of Wales where we are it might just be regarded as a weird way of spelling Fleur if we went for Fflur

Nice to see the rudeness about any name that isn’t Olivia is alive an well on mumsnet .?

Fflur is ridiculous 😂

I don’t like Fleur, sounds like bringing phlegm up when you’re ill. I love it when people use traditional and cultural names, and with non-Anglicised spellings, but I fear you’d be setting her up for a life time of pain and irritation having to explain Fflur wherever she goes

People aren't being rude Owl. The OP is asking strangers on the internet because she wants to know what people actually think. Otherwise she could just ask he mate who is more likely to smile and nod politely.

I think the English will make an absolute hash of it. Speaking as the possessor of a name that “doesn’t travel well” I’d give it a swerve. Fleur is pretty, or there are a whole bunch of lovely Welsh names that will be less of a pain to use day to day in England.

There are many ways to say you don’t like/have never come across/think it’s awful without making comments with a laughing face or that it sounds like someone being sick or the ‘it sounds like fuf-lur’ Or whatever.
I get it’s unusual when it’s from another culture, but isn’t it kinder to say ‘I don’t like it because I can’t say it’ or even ‘I’m sorry op I think it’s dreadful’ is fine. It’s all about the way you express yourself.

And @sistermaryloquacious just proved my point. Expressed kindly.

Thank you everyone for your comments. I honestly thought Fflur was a more widely known name than it seems given there are several well known people from Wales with it.

I'm amazed Fflur is getting such a bashing. It's a really common welsh name (I thought) and I've always thought it's really pretty. I can't believe people think it looks 'ridiculous' etc. I guess those people don't know many people who aren't English.

I’m Welsh and have seen a few people with the name Fflur. I wouldn’t think twice if I saw it.

Fleur.
It's lovely to try to honour her Welsh roots but that spelling looks like a typo. She'll also spend her whole life spelling out her name or explaining how it's pronounced, if she lives overseas no one will have a clue what the name is either. Also most people would presume it is spelt fleur, and there's nothing more frustrating than having people spell or say your name wrong your whole life

I know a Fflur growing up quite happily in Surrey. It's a perfectly nice name.

From non welsh perspective it really reminds me of LEGO ninjago where lord garmaddon calls his son L loyd and pronounces the L separately. So when I first read it I saw F fleur. That's just me though I think.

Flur means hallway/ corridor in German.

That's what I read it as

It doesn't sound as though Fflur works unless you're a Welsh speaking family and will pronounce it correctly yourselves and bring your DD up Welsh speaking.

Go for Fleur or a Welsh name which won't set her up for mispronouncing her own name or constantly having to explain that it isn't a typo.

I know two Fflurs in South Wales so surprised to hear people saying it’s so unheard of. I like it. It is hard to say though so if she’s going to have a non-Welsh accent I’d hesitate for a first name.

@joeybee, they won't think its fleur, because its pronounced completely differently. anyone in a foreign country other than their own will have to spell their name, surely? i have a very ordinary 'english' name, and i've had to spell it hundreds of times in asia or africa as to them its not common.
in welsh the 'ff' is like an f in english, and 'f' is our v sound. once you know that its not hard to work out how names like Hâf or Ffion are pronounced.

www.pronouncekiwi.com/Ystrad%20Fflur if you scroll to the very bottom where it says welsh pronunciation. for anyone who is curious on the proper pronunciation.

I actually can’t believe how offensive some posters have been about a very commonplace Welsh name on this thread. ‘It’s ridiculous... it looks like a stutter...’ That’s my first language you’re mocking! Heaven forbid anyone use a name that isn’t classic English rose.

Loving the idea that Fflur in particular would be incomprehensible 'overseas'. As opposed to what exactly? Sophie? Ella?

Actually, I imagine people overseas don't have the small island/monoglot state of mind that the English do and so would be less likely to 'assume its a typo' because any name that isn't obviously English 'must be made up'.

The world is changing. The idea of choosing a name that is easy for English people to pronounce and spell is fast becoming extinct. Thank goodness. These days a baby Fflur would likely grow up with kids from other cultures rather than amongst a sea of English kids named Jack and Sophie.

It isn't a name I have heard before and I would struggle to pronounce it without help.
I think that would be a fairly common response outside of Wales.
It depends how much that bothers you.

CeriBerry that doesn't make much sense considering people are recommending a French name.

Dreichuplands people consider pronunciation of English and international names if they live in a country with a different language. As this is an English language forum those threads are less frequent, but there are threads discussing how names will go down in Spainish speaking countries etc etc.

It seems almost compulsory for people to be offended by baby names posts now, but the idea has always been that you can get feedback people think but are too polite to say face to face before you saddle your offspring with a name for life.
It's not really different

Fflur looks really horrible

Fflur looks like a spelling mistake. Fleur is a bit harry potter. If you want a welsh name there are lots to choose from, pick one that works in English.

I think some people are being very rude about what is a fairly commonplace Welsh name!

NB not a ‘Welsh speaking family’ as pp have suggested we need to be to be able to say the name...