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Does the problem lie with “lily”?

44 replies

Milasmummy · 29/12/2018 11:32

A colleague of mine recently had a baby and named her “Lilyella” (no hyphen). I can’t help but find this name so...chavvy. But why??? Is “Lily” the issue?

Just out of interest, what’s your thoughts on each name...and do you think they are chavvy or classy?

Lily
Lilly/lillie
Lily-mai/mae/Rae
Lilia
Lillian
Liliana
Lilyelle/lilyella

Interested to see if the issue is lily?

Thanks

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icbatda · 29/12/2018 20:03

I read Lilyella as Lil' Yella. Can't help it.

RedDwarves · 29/12/2018 20:05

Nothing chavvy about the following:
Lily
Lilly/Lillie
Lilia
Lillian
Liliana

Though, I would expect a Lilly to be short for Lillian. It's not typical for a standalone spelling.

SemperIdem · 29/12/2018 20:06

whatusername

Give over.

My daughter has a name beginning with L. She’s 3, she struggles with them at the moment but I’m confident the (adorable) way she pronounces her name will correct itself as she gets older.

L’s and R’s are difficult for many children without disabilities Hmm

mathanxiety · 30/12/2018 02:28

It appears that Lilian/Lilia/Liliana are “classic” but are they not in essence the same thing as lilyellaas they are a collaboration of different names?:

Lilian = lily Ann
Lilia = lily with an a at the end
Liliana = Lily ana

No, some are from different languages/cultures. Lilian is an attempt at anglicising Liliana. Lilia is very common all over eastern Europe.

Lillian/Lilian/Liliana are most likely originally diminutives of Elizabeth.

Lilia is related to the flower, lily.

mathanxiety · 30/12/2018 02:30

Saying 'those names are all just Lily with something added', so the English Lily is 'correct' and eveything else is a random, affected addition, is just bonkers cultural chauvinism

^^This

Very much agree with Lottiegarbanzo.

Marcipex · 30/12/2018 02:36

I like Lillian.

Lilia is a brand of sanitary protection, according to the young nursery nurses I worked with. They shrieked with laughter when a baby girl was named Lilia, hardly giving the parents time to get out of the room.

mrsdaisyodonnell · 02/01/2019 01:09

Lily is a gorgeous, classic and pretty name.
Lilly/Lillie in my opinion ruins the timelessness of the name it’s no longer the same as the flower.
Lilliana is a beautiful classic name with Lily as a nn.
Lily-rae/lily-mae absolutely awful every child I have known with this name is from a similar type of family...

HeronLanyon · 02/01/2019 01:16

Lily is lovely.
Lilia - not heard of would be confused with Lydia which I adore.
Lillian a name I am fond of.
Lilliana/Liliana - think this makes
more sense in other euro countries. Also think is rather posh.
Lillyella and other hyphenated names less lovely and sound affected/made up to my ears but aware that lily mae is quite common and not wanting to offend anyone.

CrispbuttyNo1 · 02/01/2019 01:25

Lily on its own - classic and lovely

Ella the same.

But mangled together looks and sounds wrong.

mathanxiety · 02/01/2019 06:21

Marcipex, that says a lot more about the ignorance of the nursery workers than about the name Lilia.

explodingkitten · 02/01/2019 06:43

Some of the names mentioned as "wrong" would be right in a different language.

The world is bigger than the U.K. I presume most of you would still name your child an English version of the name chosen even when you live in Germany or Russia (for example) even if it means that you go against the local spelling?

HeronLanyon · 02/01/2019 06:57

explodingkitten agree - but if I was on said German or Russian mumsnet asking about say ‘michael’ I wouldn’t be at all surprised for mn (muttinet)to say that’s not how you spell it. I would also I have no doubt have explained that I was from the uk in my original post ?!

grasspigeons · 02/01/2019 08:35

Its two pretty names put together and sounds fine to me. The parents probably heard how much MN hates hyphens so went without a hyphen

explodingkitten · 02/01/2019 08:51

@HeronLanyon
I understand where you are coming from but the OP hasn't disclosed the nationality or origens of her colleague. Neither did the people who slag off particular spelled names.

BlancheM · 02/01/2019 08:52

Why would the 'issue' lie with the name Lily when the examples you've given have been tacked on to it or changed to give different names?
Your 'issue' is clearly about names you describe as 'chavvy'.
Many might have 'issues' with the name Mila, for example. Questions might be asked as to whether it's problematic as it could be pronounced two different ways, whether it's 'chavvy' because it's similar to Miley or a common diminutive of Milena or Millicent.
So interesting to think of where all these 'issues' stem from.

Silkei · 02/01/2019 09:02

Lilyella is chavvy because it’s a made up name. I know a Lilyjane and that name is chavvy for the same reason. Unfortunately we have chavs in our society and just have to put up with it.

HeronLanyon · 02/01/2019 09:25

Exploding kitten - very true. I sometimes think I read posts in an alternative universe and miss the point entirely !! Only sometimes of course Grin

Racecardriver · 02/01/2019 09:28

Well Lily is a bit common because it is a floral name. Lillian is a real name with no particular connotations. The rest are all made up.

Racecardriver · 02/01/2019 09:31

@explodingkitten is that even issoble though? Surely I you are naming a child in Russia you are obliged to use the scyrillic (how the fuck do you spell that?) alphabet. Not to mention the Micheal in Russian is just Micheal said with a Russian accent (in contrast to John for instance which is a complete different name).

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