Órla Julia

[BumbleDevon]

What do you all think of Órla Julia? Trying to decide whether to add to the shortlist! Last name starts with C and has two syllables.

To answer some questions:
(a) DH is Irish, I'm not.
(b) We live in Devon.
(c) Yes, he wants the fada because of this: www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.rsvplive.ie/news/irish-news/orla-with-without-fada-vomit-12293166.amp
(d) I like the spelling Orlaith too, so I'm undecided there.
(e) Julia is a family name, so it's really the first name we're thinking about at the moment.

Thanks!

The vomit without fada is not correct . It’s urla, where I believe the American ‘hurl’ came from.

Thanks all, much appreciated.

A boss wrote oral instead or orla?
This is proof mediocre men get promoted too quickly. Or he thought it was hilarious and wanted a reaction from her.

@BumbleDevon those are two lovely names that go well together. The As at the end of both the names mimic each other. Great choice :)

Jungester/Penny - I think his name misspelt was probably dickhead 😂
It’s a spell check error and oh so hilarious the 9999th time someone tells me 😊.

I'm Irish and urla means vomit, not orla. Most people spell Orla/Orlaith/Orlagh without the fada.

@Jungster - it was a very kindly elderly lady actually. A genuine error, but unfortunate for poor Orla!

Irks us one if my favourite names. I have taught a few Orlas and they have all been lovely hardworking characterful people.

If doesn't flow great with Julia but I often think that when people announce names and in time it sounds natural. It's not like you always say first and middle name together x

Irks??? Orla obvs!

Yes it is, KennDodd - it's very onomatopoeic.

I think Orla Julia sounds lovely actually, I quite like the "rhymey" quality.

To echo other posters though, Orla definitely doesn't mean vomit, I actually just googled "Orla fada" and probably 99% of the results were that same article reposted on different sites. Even Irish people get fadas wrong, most of us don't speak Irish after we leave school (unfortunately) and people have a tendency to overcompensate when it comes to fadas sometimes. I just found out last week that someone I know, mee-hawl (Mícheál)'s name is spelt "Micéal". Órfhlaith did have a fada once but with spelling reform it dropped a lot of "unnecessary" letters and Orla is now the standard spelling. Orla and Órla would be pronounced slightly differently too IMO, "or-la" vs "oh-rla" (not sure how to write that properly but ó makes 'oh'). You'll already be fighting to have English people pronouncing it correctly as they will probably default to "Aw-la" with no R, I think the fada might confuse things even more. I know you didn't ask for advice RE: the spelling but I thought it was maybe important, that article seems to have gone round a ton of Buzzfeedy sites but they're the only source for the "orla/urla" thing besides a typo on that dictionary.

On an unrelated note though, in Hebrew Orla means foreskin (ערלה)

I was just going to say that about the Hebrew.

MrsSchadenfreude ooh I never get in first on these things! I learned that in one of my first Hebrew classes at uni... In Ireland... Somehow we had no Orlas in our class, fortunately!

I don’t think the names flow well (the repetition of l and a sounds) but you won’t say them together that often so that wouldn’t put me off.

Apart from Orla not actually meaning vomit, I wouldn’t use a fada because of how it would change the pronunciation, it wouldn’t be the same name. Like Ronan vs Ronán (Ronin vs Ronawn). It would make the first letter rhyme with bowl. I’m not explaining this well.

I love the name Orla and know quite a few of them in Ireland, none of whom use a fada.

Thank you all, our minds have been put at rest about that article.

I double checked the spelling rules, and it seems that O before RL is always long anyway (if I'm understanding the textbook right). So the fada is not needed for the pronunciation. I guess some people like it for the etymological connection to ór (gold). It is not needed for the name to be correct, and that is excellent to know.

This has all been very illuminating, so thank you to those who weighed in.

As for the Hebrew thing, I'm not too worried. I have a last name that causes amusement in some parts of the world, and I've survived :-).

I've also been very inspired by another thread about Niamh, so we'll see how things go!

I only know three Orlas btw - an Orla and an Orlaith in England and an Órla in a native-Irish-speaking household in Ireland - but to be fair, she is a dog.