What to do with a 'Junior' name

[PeasAreGreat]

if a child has the fathers name to make it, for example: Richard Junior.

Would you actually register their name as: Richard Junior Smith? (if so, would their official initials be RJS?)

Or just: Richard Smith?

I suppose you could do what you like, but I'm not sure about what the norm is on this! Opinions?

No.

They are registered as Richard Smith. "Junior" is not an official thing. It's just a descriptor to separate the two people.

But it's a wanky thing to do, if you're asking. My dad was a "Junior" and bitterly resented it - he chose to go by a completely unrelated name from Kindergarten onwards.

I’d expect it to be Richard Smith. And the full name would be Richard Smith, Junior. Not Richard Junior Smith.

@reddwarves okay thanks but thats your opinion, i know plenty of people with junior names who dont hate it

The purpose of a name is to be identified!

By giving two family members the exact same name, that can't be achieved.

Also shows lack of imagination

No, i'm pretty sure you don't include Junior anywhere on the birth certificate.

The junior bit is just a nickname, not an official thing, you don’t include it in the actual name. If Dad is Richard Smith, and son is Richard Smith, they’re just known as Junior/ Richard Smith Junior.

It's tradition in many cultures. Being so rude about it is a bit "wanky" IMO.

^ agreed.

It’s been traditional here too until very very recently as well

It's up to you at the end of the day if you want include Junior you can do.

Sputnikbear is right.

The name will be Richard Smith. Junior is not included on the birth certificate, it’s an informal way of recognising the difference between people. If you choose to write it at some point, it’s often abbreviated e.g. Richard Smith, Jnr.

It’s very common in some cultures for sons to be called Junior, but their ‘proper’ name is on the birth certificate.

I've always wondered this but when does Junior become Senior? Is it if he then has a child who takes on the Junior role? But wouldn't that mean that the original Senior would become a senior senior??

Junior is an actual name that can be put on the bc

That’s where Richard Smith III would come in.

Yes, Junior can be a name (so can most things) but I don’t think that’s what the OP means - unless I’ve misread it.

Only if you are Katie Price and Peter Andre

I've always wondered this but when does Junior become Senior? Is it if he then has a child who takes on the Junior role? But wouldn't that mean that the original Senior would become a senior senior??

I don't think they do. The CEO of our company was John M. Smith Jr. If you forgot the Jr on his name in a document he would say "you have put my father's name by mistake". He was in his 60s at the time and his father was dead. I think he had daddy issues though, in fairness.

I also know a family where 4 generations had the same (quite ordinary) name - let's say Robert M Smith. And they all used the nickname Bob - every last one of them so their was Big Bob and Little Bob and Bob Junior etc.

there not their - sorry

Yes, if Richard Smith, Jnr had a son and called him Richard, he would then be Richard Smith III. But I associate the whole practice of calling everyone by the same name with either big rich American dynasties like the Gettys or the French royal family. It also doesn't seem to happen with daughters, apart from the Gilmore Girls...

I always assume people who are given their fathers name have an egotistical twit for a dad.