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Pronunciation of Esme

172 replies

Halfpastfreckle · 02/09/2018 09:56

We had pretty much decided on this name if this baby (currently 32 weeks) is a girl. I think of it as es-may. However at the park yesterday I heard one little boy call out to his sister Es-mee. Don’t like this at all and frankly it is putting me off. Is this a common pronunciation of the name??

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lolalotta · 02/09/2018 20:43

I know an Esmee much prefer Es-may

TheDowagerCuntess · 03/09/2018 00:33

The Es-mee pronunciation seems to be a UK thing - the only place I've ever heard of it is here on Mumsnet!

In real life, it's Es-may.

I would go with the Esmée spelling.

Es-mee is akin to pronouncing Nestlé as 'Nessils'. 😬

Sunflower321 · 03/09/2018 07:54

Isn't Esmée a French name, pronounced Es-mé, like café? So neither Esmee nor Edmay, but rather Esmé?

Sunflower321 · 03/09/2018 07:55

Sorry not Edmay but Esmay

cece · 03/09/2018 08:01

Amongst the ones I know only one is esmay. The rest are esmee. It is my DD s name and she is esmee as I'd never heard it said esmay till after I'd named her. She gets esmay quite a lot but it doesn't seem to bother her.

kettleonplease · 03/09/2018 08:14

Es-May
A poster on here earlier spelt it Esmae if that helps

kettleonplease · 03/09/2018 08:18

Isla is a beautiful name.
For what it's worth, a top 5 name is never going to be the same in actual figures as it was in our generation as there is a much wider spread of names now

halcyondays · 03/09/2018 08:19

I would say Es-mee

Plexie · 03/09/2018 08:40

Ez-me but I've only seen it written down, never heard it out loud

Terry Pratchett has a lot to answer for (and don't get me started on "Brutha"). Surely Nanny Ogg hasn't been saying "Esmay" for all these years?! As a diminutive of Esmerelda the "ee" sounds fits the pattern of putting "ie" or "y" on the end of names, eg Katie, Billy etc.

Sunflower321 · 03/09/2018 09:32

As a nickname for Esmeralda, I'd spell it Esmie.

But Esmée is a different name.

Plexie · 03/09/2018 10:27

That's a good suggestion Sunflower321.

BevBrook · 03/09/2018 11:30

Nanny Ogg definitely says Esmay when I am reading Pratchett!

VickieCherry · 03/09/2018 13:32

Yup, Nanny Ogg says Esmay when I read it too. Because that is how it's pronounced Grin

effiehabb · 03/09/2018 14:01

We're in SW England and know of four Esmes aged 66, 16, 13 & 4, all pronounced Ez-me. The Es-may prounciation makes me cringe a little.

louiise98 · 03/09/2018 14:02

My daughter is an Esmae, pronounce ez-may, we didn't call her esme as we didn't like them es-mee pronunciation x

Lindtnotlint · 03/09/2018 14:12

I never knew Esmeee was an option. 100% Esmay here! Weirdly fascinated by this thread...

Sunflower321 · 03/09/2018 14:32

I would pronounce

Esmé Es-mé

Esmae Es-may

Esmee Es-mee

Orchiddingme · 03/09/2018 14:59

I knew a girl at school over 40 years ago called 'Esme' (Es-me). It's a pretty name but as someone who chose a name for their child that is pronounced two different ways, it does get tiresome for them. I still love the name though and would selfishly choose it again.

florascotia2 · 03/09/2018 17:26

To summarise what previous posters have said:

Esme (acute accent over second e) is French. It is a past participle, used as an adjective. It means 'esteemed' or 'loved'. In French, it is pronounced 'Ez-meh' or Ez-May'. It was first used in the British Isles in Scotland, in the 16th century, as a male name (for a half-French nobleman who was a 'favourite' of King James VI and I). Hence the male-adjective spelling.

French participles/adjectives agree with the gender and number of the word they are describing. So the female version would be Esmee (acute accent on second e). Pronunciation also Ez-meh or Ez-May.

Esme has nothing to do with the name Esmeralda, which derives from the Spanish word for emerald.

Over the years, some people in the UK have used Esme (acute accent over second e) as a unisex name, even though it is grammatically male.

Some people in the UK say 'Esmee', but following the rules of the French language, technically they are wrong. (Just as the previous poster said about Nestle/Nesstil. ) However, in spite of Mumsnet, there is no language police. If people choose to follow a technically incorrect pronunciation, no-one is actually going to stop them. It may be - who knows - that in the future the technically-incorrect pronunciation of a French name will eventually become a new and independent English language name, like, as previous posters have said: Aimee (acute accent on first e) and Amy.

If I were naming a daughter Esme or Esmee, however, I would pronounce it 'Ez-meh' or 'Ez-may'.

abbiejasminee · 03/09/2018 17:50

I would pronounce it ez-may as I'm not too keen on ez-me Smile

Halfpastfreckle · 03/09/2018 17:54

Florascotia2:
Thanks for this really helpful summary!!!

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AdventuresRUs · 03/09/2018 17:55

Ive always heard Es - me. I didnt k ow it could be Ez may so it would sound affected (American?)to my ears! Like saying Amy Amay. ( South Uk)

hellsbells552 · 03/09/2018 19:40

I’ve heard both, but more recently Es-mi. Currently live in the West Country but grew up in SW London. Agree with @puppymonkey that it’s a shorter sound at the end and more emphasis on the first syllable.

I would also say if it’s Esmée then it’s definitely Es-may, but if it’s Esme you’ll have to tell people how you want it pronounced.

Maybe Esme is just a bastardised version of the French Esmé (i.e. Brits dropped the accent but continued the French pronunciation) and then some people saw it and went “that’s definitely pronounced Es-mi” (like me 😂).

TheDowagerCuntess · 03/09/2018 19:41

Out of interest, how do people pronounce the girl's name Renée?

MrsTerryPratchett · 03/09/2018 19:43

Nanny Ogg definitely says Esmay when I am reading Pratchett!

Me too and I should bloody know.