pros and cons of these names

[Greeneyedgeek83]

These are the names we love. please add your own pros or cons to any.

Girls:

Frances
Irene (pronounced eye-reen)
Helena
Genevieve
Evangeline
Juliet
Marianne
Francesca
Grace
Cassandra
Vivienne
Elaina
Julia
Margot
Alyssa
Evelyn
Georgia
Martha
Alexandria (Alexandra doesn't fit with our surname beginning with R)
Aurelia
Alma (we have a pub close by with this name in it so unsure)
Mariella

BOYS

-Francis

-Albert (I have a living uncle with this name, I love him but I genuinely like the name and would hope it wouldn't be assumed it was purely based on him lol)

-Michael (I sometimes worry I will think of michael jackson and I'm still not sure if he was a perv?)

-Alfred (is alfie inevitable? I am not keen and prefer Alf or fred)

-Asher

-Isaac (I like names you can shorten and I don't know a nickname for this?)

-Heath

-Gabriel - (would he get called gay at school?)

-Alexander

-Edward (Like Ted for a little boy but not an older person and hate eddie?)

The only one I don't like is Alma and for the same reason that you have doubts - a local pub.

A nickname for Isaac is Zac.

Like Cassandra, Margot, Aurelia and Mariella, Helena and Marianne too.
I’d ditch the rest.

Like Gabriel, Alexander and Edward.

Gabriels are called Gabe.

Most of your names I consider quite old fashioned.... nothing wrong with that, but most of the older boys names also come with the inevitable nicknames. Like Francis - Frank/Frankie, Albert - Albie , Edward - Eddie . Alexander - Alex or Zander. I feel like a lot of kids won't like these
'older' names so they're likely to shorten them , worth thinking about !

Michael is too common to be only associated with Michael Jackson 😂 so I wouldn't worry about that . Asher is ok but it's apparently quite popular the last few years, it's been in the top 10 lists anyway

Of the girls names I like Francesca, Elaina, Alyssa and Evelyn. Some of the others are a bit too old for my taste (Martha, Frances and Irene for sure too old for me , sorry)

From your girls list, I like Frances, Helena, Juliet and Alyssa.
Boys names, I'd choose Francis.

I don't like any of your boys names but I love

Aurelia
Marianne
Francesca
Juliet
Mariella

Frances: it's okay but I prefer Francesca
Irene (pronounced eye-reen): old-fashioned and not in the good way
Helena: Helen-a or He-leen-a?
Genevieve: Hate this
Evangeline: Lovely, esp nn Evie.
Juliet: Excellent name
Marianne: the wet, drippy one in Sense and Sensibility. I wouldn't.
Francesca: see above
Grace: Blah, blah, blah
Cassandra: DOOM, DOOM, WE'RE ALL DOOMED. Also, Only Fools and Horses
Vivienne: It's okay
Elaina: No. Either Elaine or Elena.
Julia: It's okay
Margot: This is lovely
Alyssa: Not a fan
Evelyn: Cute
Georgia: Whatever
Martha: It's a very home-body sort of name.
Alexandria: sounds pretentious even if you picked it for pronunciation issues
Aurelia: also pretentious
Alma: no, and not just because of the pub
Mariella: after Mariella Frostrup? I wouldn't.

BOYS
Francis: nope
Albert: nn Bertie. Lovely
Michael: Michael Jackson was totally a perv.
Alfred: nn Freddy. Fine.
Asher: nope
Isaac: Love this. nn Zac.
Heath: nope.
Gabriel: no, he wouldn't get called gay. I mean, he might, like any kid might, but not because of his name.
Alexander: sure, why not?
Edward: well then, call him Ted when he's little, and Edward as an adult.

Frances- never met one under the age of 65
Irene-never met one under the age of 85
Helena- I like it
Genevieve- can’t think of a major con but not a fan
Evangeline- beautiful name but would no doubt be shortened to Eva which is very common atm.
Juliet- like it. Obvious link to Romeo and Juliet which doesn’t phase me but might bug her at GCSE age.
Marianne- lovely
Francesca- went to school with one and everyone called her Fanny.
Grace- too common
Cassandra -only fools and horses
Vivienne- would possibly be shortened to Viv which makes me think of a grumpy middle aged woman
Elaina- would have to spell it out a lot to people and may be shortened to Elle.
Julia- not a fan
Margot- beautiful, one of my favourites.
Alyssa- common
Evelyn-common
Georgia-only Georgia/Georgina’s I’ve ever known have been truly wretched people.
Martha- another of my favourites
Alexandria- may get Andrea which is grim but most likely would be Alex
Aurelia- orally. Sounds awful in most British accents if you are UK based
Alma- only ever known dogs called this
Mariella- beautiful

BOYS

-Francis- again, never met one under about 65. Usually gets shortened to Frank.

-Albert. I don’t mind this and I know it has a recent resurgence but it really is an old man’s name. Not a cool old man’s name either, just a straight up pensioners name . Reminds me of only fools and horses again too.

-Michael. Don’t mind it, not many around things these days either.

-Alfred. Alfie is definitely inevitable and I agree, not a favourite.

-Asher- no. I can’t really say anything other than ‘no’.

-Isaac, can be shortened to Zac. Don’t mind it, makes me think of Sir Isaac Newton.

-Heath. Ledger? Besides, it should be Heathcliff and that is an awful piece of literature.

-Gabriel. Would possibly get the piss taken in secondary school but unsure. The ones I have met shorten it to Gabe.

-Alexander- like it but would almost definitely be Alex.

-Edward- my favourite, we have chosen this. Ted/Teddy/Bear when he’s young then just Ed or Edward when he’s older.

Frances - it sounds so stiff on a girl if you know what i mean
Irene - it's different but not really getting the retro-chic feel i get off other older names. Maybe your just ahead of the trend? Maybe you'd like Eileen? It has a slighter younger feel to me

Helena - pretty with either pronunciation
Genevieve - I like it nn Ginny. Not so keen on Genna / Genny. Evie maybe?
Evangeline - pretty but quite a heavy name to have
Juliet - not a fan
Marianne - lovely name
Francesca - really like it like Cesca. Dislike Frankie
Grace - nice enough
Cassandra - not a fan
Vivienne - I like it, it has Sass
Elaina - not a fan
Julia - not a fan
Margot - really like it
Alyssa - nice
Evelyn - like alot but it's very popular
Georgia - nice
Martha - ok
Alexandria (Alexandra doesn't fit with our surname beginning with R) - not a fan. I like Alessandra
Aurelia - no
Alma - I like. A pub wouldn't put me off unless it was infamous locally for dogging or something

Mariella - ok but i think Marianne is much nicer

-Francis - love

-Albert - i think this would be ok if you d using a nickname that uncle isn't known by

-Michael - not a fan. I prefer Micah

-Alfred - I think Alfie would be people's go to nickname

-Asher - it's ok. A bit meh

-Isaac - can be shortened to Ike or Zac

-Heath - cliff and Cathy

-Gabriel - I like it but like you worry it would be hard to pull off as a teenager

-Alexander - it's ok just everywhere
Edward - I also really like Edward nn Ted but wouldn't use it as I hate Eddie. Though Ed isn't so bad

Or what about

Niamh
Hannah
Orla
Susannah
Eloise

And boys

Raphael
Olob3r
Frederick
Ryan
Caleb
Robert?

Sorry that's meant to be Oliver above

Orla is lovely, and Susannah (Susie is cute).
I still like Francis for a boy, but Robert and Oliver are both nice.

My faves are
Susannah can be shortened to Susie or Anna

Caleb not sure what ti shorten ti other than Cal

Frances- like but dislike Fran
Irene - dislike -dated
Helena - ok
Genevieve- too much
Evangeline - dislike
Juliet- beautiful classic
Marianne- lovely
Francesca - ok but wary of possible nicknames again
Grace - boring
Cassandra - I really like it but wary of the only fools connections
Vivienne- love but wary Of pretty woman connection
Eliana - dislike
Julia - like
Margot - ok but people I know who’ve use it are a tad ‘try hard’
Alyssa - really dislike
Evelyn - ok
Georgia - beautiful classic name lovely
Martha - clunky
Alexandria (Alexandra doesn't fit with our surname beginning with R) like
Aurelia- dislike
Alma (we have a pub close by with this name in it so unsure) awful

BOYS

-Francis- like

-Albert like

-Michael (I sometimes worry I will think of michael jackson and I'm still not sure if he was a perv?) boring

-Alfred (is alfie inevitable? I am not keen and prefer Alf or fred) avoid if you hate all the associated nicknames

-Asher not keen

-Isaac (I like names you can shorten and I don't know a nickname for this?) boring

-Heath not keen

-Gabriel - (would he get called gay at school?) lovely name

-Alexander ok

-Edward (Like Ted ok

All good names but I really love Margot and Alexander

We had a Margot at school who always got called Maggot. Martha is what the maid is usually called in Victorian novels. I like Alexander and Aurelia. Your list of names also made me think of Madeleine which is lovely.

I love Madeleine but I always think McCann whenever I see the name.

Frances - Fanny, Bacon, Fran. I like Frances
Irene (pronounced eye-reen) - Prefer I-reen-ee
Helena - like it a lot
Genevieve - Not keen.
Evangeline - Don't like it. Eve/Eva/Evie etc. It's less horrible than Aveline.
Juliet - ok, but I wouldn't choose it. Don't like Jools or Julie-ETTE.
Marianne - ok but I wouldn't choose it
Francesca - ok not keen on Chessie or Frankie
Grace - lovely but too popular
Cassandra - no. Cassie's a bit barmaidy
Vivienne - ok but I wouldn't choose it. Viv?
Elaina - nice
Julia - ok but I wouldn't choose it. Don't like Jules.
Margot - ok
Alyssa - nice
Evelyn - no. don't like it. Too popular and not pretty or anything.
Georgia - yes. Also like Georgina
Martha - ok
Alexandria (Alexandra doesn't fit with our surname beginning with R) - no. Alexandria is too long. How about Leopoldina?
Aurelia - too frilly
Alma (we have a pub close by with this name in it so unsure) - nice but I too live near a pub called it.
Mariella - nice

BOYS
Francis - Fran, Bacon, Frank. Frank is OK
Albert (I have a living uncle with this name, I love him but I genuinely like the name and would hope it wouldn't be assumed it was purely based on him lol) - don't like Albie or Bertie so a no
Michael (I sometimes worry I will think of michael jackson and I'm still not sure if he was a perv?) - like it a lot but can't stand any MJ songs
Alfred (is alfie inevitable? I am not keen and prefer Alf or fred) - Don't like Alfred, Fred, Alf or Alfie
Asher - no
Isaac (I like names you can shorten and I don't know a nickname for this?) - Ike. Too biblical for me but otherwise OK
Heath - Ted. How about Thatcher or Major instead? Actually it's a name that looks nice, but a bit too much like Keith?
Gabriel - (would he get called gay at school?) - Gay, Gabe. Too frilly
Alexander - classic
Edward (Like Ted for a little boy but not an older person and hate eddie?) - I liked Teddy when it was just Mr Sheringham but now little Teds are everywhere I'm too scared to go down to the woods

Genevieve could be confusing as to whether you use the English or French pronunciation, ie Jenni-veev or Shaun-vie-éve. Worked in the city and had lots of French Shaun-viévs as colleagues, always lovely though

Your girls names all seem of a certain theme and are lovely. I particularly love Genevieve and think it is really under used. Also love Aurelia - Love Actually!

Your boys names seem quite random. I think Michael is quite classic but seems quite different to your girls names. Gabriel - all I can think of is Gabriel on The Bill who was a psychopath (!) sorry.

Boys names more like your girls names I can think of would be Zachary, Nathaniel, Miles, Roman... I don't know but your girls names all seem very sophisticated and somewhat rare these days whereas the boys names seem a bit ordinary in comparison? Sorry if that's not helpful but... Genevieve - yes!

Genvieve (french pron. ) is for me Catherine Denueve in the Umbrellas of Cherbourg (beautiful and eternally chic)