Wobble on welsh baby name

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I’m having a bit of a wobble on a baby name we thought we had chosen.
We live in England but other children have welsh 1st name (due to welsh family connections).
Boys name is Tomos James.
I love Tomos, like that is easy to spell (baring in mind we live in England) and easy to pronounce (as it is written). I like James with it (though don’t love James on its own).
My problem is with Tom. I’m not sure I like Tom as a nn. At first it wouldn’t really be an issue but he may choose to use it (especially as having a welsh name in England) later on.
Any reassurance? I do struggle more with welsh boys names in general (I chose far more girls names!).

I like that spelling op. I'm not sure if some people won't know how to pronounce it though? People can be pretty dense.

I don't like Tom either, so I see where you're coming from there. I suppose just correct people if they call him Tom and let him decide for himself when he's old enough?

He'll almost certainly be Tom!

So if you don't like Tom, have a rethink.

Also, Tomos is lovely, but it is one of those names that is pronounced differently enough with the Welsh version for it to (possibly) irritate when, in England, he will end up with it sounding just like Thomas. You kind of need to say it in a Welsh accent to get it right iyswim? Maybe that's just me

Tomos is absolutely ubiquitous here in South Wales. It doesn't often seem to get shortened to Tom though. All the kids I've known have stuck with Tomos. If you're looking for easy to pronounce alternatives then Rhys, Aled, Owen, Jac, Rhodri might work?

Honestly, I didn't realise that Tomos was a name. I would be a bit concerned about people thinking that you purposely mispelled Thomas.

I think you get Tomos in some other languages too. It's quite common in Wales. In England, people will pronounce it as Thomas.
If you don't like Tom then you need to think of something else.
Aled is smashing. Not too out there and unlikely to get mispronounced.
I would think of something easy to spell, easy to pronounce and that you are happy with any short or 'nickname' forms.

Try the names out on non-welsh speaking friends. E.g. Rhys is pronounced quite differently by Welsh and non-Welsh speakers, and ask if they would know how to say or spell it. Would you be happy with different pronunciations.
Some names (e.g. Huw, Bryn, Aled) are more mainstream now.

A lot of people can be very rude about names to your face. I would think twice before calling a boy something like Llŷr (love the name) because it will result in a WTF response.

Thanks for the comments. Dh has a welsh name and has lived in England for over 10 years. He likes the idea of a welsh name with a very common English nn as his most certainly doesn’t have one and people do struggle with his name. (He always gets called Mr Wait4nothing in restaurants/hotels as people don’t even try his 1st name). His brother also lived in England a while and just used to make up names as nobody could say his and again it has no simple nn. So in that respect I can see where he’s coming from. It’s not that I hate Tom - all tom’s ive met have been lovely - it’s just not something I love iykwim. But then I don’t like al for aled, Rhys is out due to family - really don’t like Owen (due to knowing someone with the name). Haven’t considered jac or rhodri but don’t love them either. (I did explain I was picky!)
My 2nd favourite is Gethin but dh doesn’t love geth 😂.

Trouble is nicknames are usually outside parental control. His school friends might well call him Wait4, shrimp, Muggle, T, or a hundred other things. His football club friends might have a different name for him, as might his university friends.

Mabon

Bryn

Talfryn- Tal for short - easy!

Tomos James is lovely.
Like you, I'm not keen on Tom, how about TJ ?

Call him Tomi instead?
Or Osian or Ifan like my two (outs myself)

I really like Tomos (I live in wales) and Tom gives him the option of not being too welsh if he prefers while living in England

Tomos is nice. I like Tom, but if you really don't like the shortening, you may need to go with something else.

For other Welsh T names, I love Taran/Taron.

He will, without a doubt, be called tom by many many many people. I'd call him tom. The five tomos I know are all called tom frequently. (The two gethins I know go by tin- like Tin tin)

Welsh or English- Thomas or tomos . The shirt is tom.

What about Mathew, Welsh spelling but easily pronounced for the English. Mathew James is lovely.

Huw? No nicknames though.
Dylan
Rhodri (Rhod or Rod)
Gwylim (Gwil)
Hari just Harry

Gwilym?

Or Gwynfor?

calm great minds! Gwil is an easy name for anyone

My brothers name is gwilym- in England, on the phone to call centres, job applicants etc- they call him Goo. Because gwilym in English apparently reads goolieem (phonetic)

(It's a family family fight- my name has yet to be pronounced correctly anywhere but specific areas of wales- the more English speaking side don't manage it at all!)

Tomas is lovely and I like Tom as well. And if people are going to struggle with it ... well, a lot of people are a bit daft and can’t figure out the most bog-standard names. I worked with someone named Ceredig (in england). Everyone called him Baldrick.

My DD has a Tomos in her class, he is called by the full Tomos, never Tom.

Huw might be nn'd Huwi, Huwcyn or Hugo.
Gwilym phonetic in English would be Gwillum. Outside Wales it will get misspelt, probably Gwylim. It's nice though.
I know several Aleds but only one gets called Al. I know several Gethins and it's not shortened than often, but it does get said as Geffyn sometimes.
Alun (pron. AL-in) gets said as Alan, and is a bit dated.
Dylan is ok in Wales but very dated. I can't stand the Dillun pronunciation.
Taran is welsh for thunderclap.
How about Griff?
I think you can use Tomos and always use the full name.

There are lots of super welsh names.
www.welshboysnames.co.uk/

I have a Tomás who has never been a Tom. I think this is because people don't automatically associate variations of non- English Thomas in the same way they do with "Thomas" and therefore they are less likely to use Tom as a nn. Also lacking the h makes it a visably shorter name so I guess that makes it less likely to be further shortened
Also a boy that never had the nn Tom growing up is not likely to choose it later on, if he does though, it would be his choice I guess. I would go for Tomos. Lovely name.