Torin, Cael or Coen?

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Pronounced Taw-rin and Cal (both Gaelic, we are Scottish) and Coen pronounced as you would probably expect.

You wouldn’t really give your child a name that is pronounced “coon” would you!?

it’s how their name is pronounced - would you expect them to change it? confused

Maybe have a look at the thread laughing at people with “unfortunate” names.

Or perhaps just accept that there are cultural differences in naming styles and don’t judge people simply for being ‘forrin’? Naming threads on here are often very sneery of Scottish names (Kyle, etc), or names commonly chosen by people with west-African heritage (Precious etc). It’s a shame there are so many narrow minded and ignorant folk about, not sure why people with names that reflect their own heritage should change them in response to such ignorance

I’m not sure that suggesting you shouldn’t name your child something that sounds offensive in the country they are living in is “narrow minded” or “ignorant”

Then I misunderstood you saying
there's no way you could use that in the UK

to mean "there's no way you could use that in the UK."
When in fact numerous people of Dutch origin do in fact use their given names in the UK.

If in fact you mean't - "I would recommend not naming your child Coen as the pronounciation may be considered offensive in the UK" then I think that's fair enough.

Exactly. What could be more narrow minded and ignorant than calling your child a name that is potentially offensive to two different groups of people.

I’ve never seen sneering about Scottish and Irish or Welsh names here - quite the opposite people are really enthusiastic. Never seen a discussion of W African names so can’t comment.

For the select few who are getting their knickers in a twist, no it does not sound exactly like the derogatory term, hence in reply to this comment :

"Coen is Dutch, but is pronounced Coon, not Co-wen.
So unless you're going with the Dutch pronunciation, you can't really claim a different derivation."

I said it sounded more like the way it is pronounced in Dutch, than the way some Anglified accents would tend to pronounce it. This does not mean it sounded exactly like it.

I would not intend to cause any offence at all.

Really tatiana?

Kade, Kaden, Kyle, Kai are commonly sneered at on here.
There was also a recent thread on Ethan as a naughty boy name

Every time there's a "what's the worst name you've heard" thread some 'geniuses' will pop up to show their ignorance by sneering at West-African names

Then I misunderstood you saying
there's no way you could use that in the UK

to mean "there's no way you could use that in the UK."

The OP is talking about naming a baby and the “you” in my post refers to the OP. The one who is naming a baby, and not a grown man. I’m sorry you didn’t understand that.

I can only assume you are being deliberately obtuse though so I’ll leave you to it.

I really like Torin!

You might say Cael is pronounced Cal but nobody will know that and will mainly say it as Kale sounding. Would you like to have a name that you would have to correct every single time? I do, and its irritating.

Torin by all the country miles.

Ha! We have a Torin & a Cal (and 4 others with Irish/Scots names too!) so I love both. Our Cal is short for Callan though. I wouldn't go for Coen, for reasons already mentioned upthread - it has a lovely sound but is definitely contentious.

Torin's fab. We have a Tarran which is Welsh and I'm assuming of a similar derivation.

@mummabubs as in Oakenshield?

@janeylacey yes!! Although it's also a legitimate name in Scandinavia so not quite as extreme as all the Khaleesi's that have popped up in the last year! 😉 I was a bit anxious about what other people's reactions would be but I just loved the name so much and how it sounds that I decided to throw caution to the wind!

@mummabubs we SO nearly did as well! I absolutely adore the name. Funnily enough, Torin was going to be our other option if we weren't brave enough for Thorin. I'm an English teacher and ultimately, couldn't handle the inevitable: "oh so you really like The Hobbit then' comments.

We called DS Julian in the end

^Kade, Kaden, Kyle, Kai are commonly sneered at on here.
There was also a recent thread on Ethan as a naughty boy name^

Because they’ve been taken over by chavs who love K names, just as have some English names. For some reason chavs like Ks Kayden, Kai, Keeley, Kylie, Kayleigh etc.

Cai is Latin or Welsh anyway. Ethan is from the bible. Cadain was originally a Scottish surname - and actually in that form it’s nice. It went to the US changed to Kayden and caught on here. It bears little resemblance to the Scottish name it once was.

Twigg You mean Taran? As in, Welsh for thunder? Can I ask if that's a boy or girl? (It's a feminine word in Welsh)

We use the version with a double "r" Pidlan, the same as his great uncle. He's a boy and never has a name been more appropriate: he is indeed very thundery!

Pidlan

The only Taran’s I have come across (I’m Welsh, live in Wales) have been boys, so assume Twigg’s Taran is also a boy.

I spent ages recently trying to convince someone that Tyrion is actually Welsh, a feminine name and spelt Tirion mind.