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MummyMcCabe · 10/06/2017 07:52

Hi. We live in Wales but don't speak Welsh and really like the name Rhian. The way we pronounce it is 'rhiun' and not 'rhiAnne', is that ok? I've heard people be called both see. Thanks!!

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Blondielongie · 10/06/2017 07:53

The way you say it is right.

Onceafortnight · 10/06/2017 11:24

I know a 'Rhiun' and a 'Rhianne'. Either is fine.

llangennith · 10/06/2017 11:36

I've only ever heard it pronounced Rhi-anne.

MikeUniformMike · 10/06/2017 12:03

It is neither. It is RhEE-an - the an is like the an in can.
The Rh is R and H said at the same time.
I work with a Rhian (in England) and I get comments about how I am the only one who says it properly.

Please think twice before giving your child a name you can't pronounce.

SamiZayn · 10/06/2017 13:44

Mike I might be being thick but I can't work out the difference between the second pronunciation given by op and yours. I know both pronunciations

SoyUnPerdedor2 · 10/06/2017 13:59

Rhe-un would seem to be the more English (lazy) pronunciation.
More emphasis on the ANNE ending would be the Welsh way.
I would think.

MikeUniformMike · 10/06/2017 14:02

The RH sound is not the same as R. It is like a Scottish/Spanish R said at the same time as H.

Rhian does not rhyme with Ian (EE-un) or like Leanne (Lee-ANNE).

Instead it is RHEE-ann. Think of how you say Leanne but instead of saying Lee Anne you put more emphasis on the Lee bit.

MikeUniformMike · 10/06/2017 14:05

Soy. You are mistaken. In Welsh the emphasis is almost ALWAYS on the last but one syllable. Rhi-Anne is as horrible as pronouncing Debora as De-BOR-a or Rachel as Ray-CHEL.

SoyUnPerdedor2 · 10/06/2017 14:18

Sorry.
I may be confusing it with rhianon?
That would have more of about ANNE in the middle?

MikeUniformMike · 10/06/2017 14:48

Rhiannon. Lovely name but I would say it as two syllables or as Rhee- ANN-on. Not Ree-Annan

Gwenhwyfar · 10/06/2017 14:54

"Please think twice before giving your child a name you can't pronounce."

This. Can you pronounce Rh?

llangennith · 10/06/2017 15:14

Should have added, emphasis on first syllable.

SoyUnPerdedor2 · 10/06/2017 16:14

I think the English can be very lazy with name endings.
Lots of names seem to end in "un"
Karen
Dylan (dill-un)
Alan (al-un)
Caden (cade-un)
Cameron(cam-run)
Even those without an n..

Rachel (ray-chull)
Daryl (da-rull)
Carol (ca-rull)
Eden (ee-dun)
Graham (grey-um)
Michael (my-cull)
Steven (steve-un)
Lilian (lily-un)
Adam (a-dum)
Keira (keer-uh )
Anna (ann-uh)

Dixiestamp · 10/06/2017 19:23

I know plenty of Rhians who pronounce their names like that (Rhi-un), but also some Rhi-ann pronunciations too.

ItsAYesFromMe · 10/06/2017 19:27

It's my name and I'm English and have always said it as 'Rhiun' not 'Rhi-Ann'

IntheBenefitTrap · 10/06/2017 19:39

I'm in Wales and speak Welsh and know over 10 Rhians, all pronounced Rhi-un.

Gwenhwyfar · 10/06/2017 19:44

"I'm in Wales and speak Welsh and know over 10 Rhians, all pronounced Rhi-un."

Really? And as a Welsh speaker, you also pronounce it like that without throwing up? It just sounds very ugly to Welsh-speaking ears.
Of course, names change and become anglicised. You could argue that Dylan pronounced Dillon is the right pronunciation now though it still sounds bad to Welsh speakers.

Gwenhwyfar · 10/06/2017 19:46

"I think the English can be very lazy with name endings.
Lots of names seem to end in "un"

It's not laziness if it's an English name and it's supposed to end with an 'un' sound. I think plenty of English speakers would pronounce a real ah sound at the end of Anna though.

mamapants · 10/06/2017 19:48

mike's pronunciation is correct.

CottonSock · 10/06/2017 19:49

I know it as Rhi-anne.
Never made me want to throw up, Sorry but thats a silly thing to say

OvariesBeforeBrovaries · 10/06/2017 19:51

I grew up in North Wales, very Welsh-speaking, where it was definitely pronounced the way Mike describes.

Recently moved to SW Wales where I've met a Rhi-un.

Gwenhwyfar · 10/06/2017 20:14

Cotton - it's the Rhi-un pronunciation that makes me want to throw up. Can't help the way I feel.

IntheBenefitTrap · 10/06/2017 20:14

Why would it make me want to throw up? How very bizarre. It's their names and that's how they pronounce them Shock

SW Wales here too. Very Welsh area.

Blondielongie · 11/06/2017 22:21

Gwen - what is the correct pronounciation of Dylan? I always thought the dyl, was pronounced 'Dil' But one of my friends says Dullan. It grates on me a bit - whose right? Am I wrong?

Gwenhwyfar · 11/06/2017 23:09

Dylan is a Welsh name so the correct pronunciation is the Welsh one i.e. like the word dull and the name Anne with the emphasis on the dull.

I suppose you could argue that the Dillun version has now become a name in its own right like you have Charlotte in French and Chahlutt in English. Dylan Thomas used the Anglicised pronunciation.

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