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British/Scottish naming rules for expats? (Inspired by the wrong cafe thread and a terribly insecure person called Hopkins)

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WeArePregnant11 · 28/10/2016 11:40

I'm pretty sure this is British cultures influencing me (and mumsnet... the "wrong cafe thread". It's interesting, it seems like you think all this middle middle, lower middle stuff is simply entertaining. But it might also be that you're simply pretending, because you actually do take it seriously but are unwilling to admit it... and if this is actually taken seriously. Sure, we're expats. But it isn't like teachers or employers will know that when they see our baby's name)

So, baby names. Seeing as we do plan to stay in the UK (preferably Edinburgh, but we also liked London) the baby name should be fine for the UK.
The internet lead me to a very insecure woman called Katie Hopkins... which as very unhelpful 😐 !

My spouse is in favour of using family names. Sure... but her family names are American (Southern), and British and American naming culture is different.
I'm Swiss, and although there are names with a bad reputation back home (like Kevin) for example I'd usually be secure enough to not care about things like this.

So, the names we like
Tara Ylva Millicent
Clarissa Millicent
Clarissa Ylva
Louisa Ylva Clementine

Nathaniel Jason or Erik
Henry Jason
Erik Nathaniel
Alexander Henrik

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OlennasWimple · 28/10/2016 14:46

Yes, Hyacinth is working class desperately trying to be middle class.

Although Brits are class conscious we can also laugh about it (even if subconsciously - we don't fret about this stuff every day, but also don't really notice how important it can be to us. Foreigners notice it much more, because it is so deeply ingrained). I think the closest parallel in the US is race and religion, but there's no comedy I'm aware of that pokes fun in an affectionate way at these issues. I've had an interesting experience since moving to the US recently: back home I'm lower middle class; here I'm a WASP, and therefore basically posh - it's very odd!

MrsCaecilius · 28/10/2016 14:51

Your names are all lovely and you come across as a lovely person too!

Of the names you mention only Ylva stands out as unusual, but it has a lovely meaning, is easy to say (once you know how to say it!) and as a middle name shouldn't cause any issues.

Brits can react consciously (or unconsciously) to almost any name, but I'd say you're on pretty safe ground with that list and I'd expect any child to be from a general middle class background.

Jason may be considered mildly chavy/1980s (Jason Donovan etc) but I do think the classical connection is likely to redeem it in the coming years and pairing it with Henry or Nathaniel dilutes the 1980s and emphasizes the classical aspect to me.

stonygreysoil · 28/10/2016 15:05

Ylva is wonderful name and story. you should use it as a first name.

May just be me, but having an "a" ending in first name and second name jars a bit.

Nathaniel and Erik in whichever order you prefer. and definitely keep the K.
Eric is a 50 something accounts receivable clerk. Erik is a viking fresh from plunder.

WeArePregnant11 · 28/10/2016 17:30

Olenna well, I have to watch it now.:) these social things are interesting. Where I'm from the divide does still exist. But I know from Swiss expat that they don't experience it (unless they've been here for years) it's apparently too subtle. And nowadays,., well, racism is probably a bigger issue than classism back home Sad

Mrs thanks :) I'm sometimes very defensive and then get a bit krazbürstig (I think the English word might be bristly)... Blush
I'm super happy about the reactions Ylva seems to get. Idk, a little girl with a wolf stuffy? That would be adorable :)

stony really? Wouldn't Ill-va sound like "ill"? Which, totally fine as a 2nd name, but a first...?
I also like Erik. Erik with a k. I personally am categorically opposed to Eric...
Plus, I have a Swedish grandparent, my OH has Swedish ancestry and the likelihood of the LO being blond is pretty high... so, yeah. Vikings ;)

Flying well, my OH does have a very English sounding surname. So, I'm pretty sure the LO will be "read"...

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SpunkyMummy · 28/10/2016 23:50

Clarissa and Erik :)

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