Straw Poll: Albert when DS1 is Alfred

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So DS1 is Freddie, Alfred on birth certificate. We liked Freddie/Fred for a little boy but thought he could be Alf/ie later on if he fancied it.

I really like Bertie for DS2. But one of DS's Middle names is Robert, and I'm worried that Albert is too similar (even though they'd be Freddie and Bertie).

Thoughts? Or alternative suggestions? Archie, Casper, Oscar, Joe also on list.

Freddie is most commonly an abbreviation of Frederick, not Alfred. If you think about it, shortenings tend to be the stressed syllable of a name. We don't say Al FRED, it's ALfred and that's why Alfred is usually abbreviated to Alf or Alfie. Bertie, however, is often from the unstressed Bert in Albert.

I say Al-FRED, equal emphasis. Also, his name's Alfred nn Freddie, I prefer Alfred to Frederick, and he might fancy changing it when he's older if he prefers another shortening (he prefers Freddie at the moment).

I agree that Al/Bert/Fred won't work.

I think it's fine if you stick to nicknames. Love Bertie.

Freddie and Bertie is so lovely.

I really like Bertram. And to my non-English expat ears Bertie sounds like a perfectly reasonably nn for a little Robert and Rupert. You could probably also go for Herbert... (but I personally don't like this name).

I'd personally go for Robert or Rupert. The of a woman in my pregnancy yoga class is called Rupert. His nn is also Bertie :)

*son
The son of a woman

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Robert is a definite possibility, Rupert = Murdoch in my book so unfortunately I wouldn't go near it