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Caitlín?

44 replies

Aiwo · 31/03/2016 20:05

Is having Caitlín pronounced the proper (Irish) way too much of an uphill battle in the UK?

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Itinerary · 31/03/2016 20:20

I think in the UK a lot of people will say Kate-lyn the first time, but once you correct them will probably remember how you pronounce it Smile

YeOldeTrout · 31/03/2016 20:50

So... what is the Irish way? Like Cat-lynn?

Is Kathleen closer? I always thought of Kathleen as Irish name...

ThroughThickAndThin01 · 31/03/2016 20:52

I wouldnt know how to pronounce it, if not Kate Lynn.

Fwaffy · 31/03/2016 20:55

Well you'll mainly be introducing her verbally rather than having people see it written down so it should be fine. Same when she's older really.

She might have issues in school with roll call etc but again, once corrected I'd think that should sort it. (Spoken as a person with an awkward Irish spelling who lived in both UK and Ireland).

Fwaffy · 31/03/2016 20:56

It's pronounced "cotch-leen" in Ireland for those wondering.

YeOldeTrout · 31/03/2016 20:58

cotch like crotch or botch but not catch or caught?

squoosh · 31/03/2016 21:20

Yes. Uphill battle as there are loads of them in the UK that pronounce it as kate-lynn. Even the Irish ones are generally pronounced as kate-lynn from what I can tell.

Kathleen is far more old lady Irish chic (okay maybe chic is an exaggeration!) in my opinion.

babyblabber · 31/03/2016 22:52

Jays us I read it as kate-lynn & don't even live in the uk. Too much time on mumsnet? Or coz in from the pale?!!! I know Cait but have never heard Caitlin pronounced cotch lynn

VertigoNun · 31/03/2016 22:55

Cotch-leen not Lynn.

Beautiful name OP.

Parney · 31/03/2016 23:36

For it to be cotch leen it would need a fada on the a... Cáitlín.

OP's potential baby name is Caitlín without fada on a.... Which makes it Kat-leen.

Parney · 31/03/2016 23:37

I love both btw Grin

mathanxiety · 01/04/2016 01:56

It would be Cawtch-leen with a fada on the a. (As in the name Cáit.)

Caitlín would be Cotch-leen (with the shorter a sound.) It's not Kat because it's a slender T.

mathanxiety · 01/04/2016 02:01

I much prefer Kathleen, or Caitríona if you want a variant.

I suspect Caitlín would always be pronounced Cate-lynn simply because people would have no idea there is another pronunciation. Correcting people might get a bit tiring, or repeating the name a few times after being introduced, then being asked to spell it, etc.

LucyBabs · 01/04/2016 02:08

Wow I've been Irish for 33 years and never heard Caitlin pronounced Cawtch leen Confused
However I don't speak Irish fluently.. currently have my 7 yr old dd teaching me Smile

Aiwo · 01/04/2016 19:31

Mathanxiety
Caitríona is nice but could run into the surname too much.
We both like Kathleen but my DH hates the way people without Irish accents say it. Maybe I should try and convince him again

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SoThatHappened · 01/04/2016 19:34

How do people with Irish accents pronounce Kathleen out of interest?

Cerseirys · 01/04/2016 19:45

What's the correct pronunciation for Caitríona then?

ZenNudist · 01/04/2016 19:46

I prefer kate-Lynn sound. Nice name, but if you live in England then expect everyone to struggle with it.

Can't it just be Caitlin?

Aiwo · 01/04/2016 19:46

SoThat
More with a Kat-leen rather than a th sound

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BackforGood · 01/04/2016 19:50

Aw... I was coming on to say 'lovely name - go for it', but I've only ever heard it pronounced Kate-Lynn
So, I do think, if you are in the UK, that's what she'd get all her life.

Aiwo · 01/04/2016 22:10

Zen
My DH wants an Irish name (or at least one used in Ireland traditionally) but very much feels that in having one we should have one said correctly and not anglicise it.

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Parney · 01/04/2016 22:18

Accents are known as a fada and they change the sounds of the vowels.

á-aw instead of ah
é-ai/ay
Í-ee/ea
ó-oh
ú-oo as in too

ai in Caitlín makes an 'ah' sound

Parney · 01/04/2016 22:30

OP have you thought of any of these Irish names? I'm sure you've loads but I'll add some ideas!

Aisling, Aoife, Áine, Bríd, Bronagh, Bláthín, Cáitín (kaw-teen, Irish for katie) Clodagh, Doireann, Fia, Gráinne, Íde, Lara, Maebh, Nora, Ríona, Sadbh/sadhbhín, Tara, Treasa, Úna.

mathanxiety · 02/04/2016 05:06

I have an Irish accent (south Dublin) and pronounce Kathleen with a th sound, and the first syllable emphasised (KATH-leen). It's a very soft th sound or it would require a schwa between the H and the L.

I don't know any Irish people who would pronounce it KAT-leen.

Caitríona should be Cotch-REE-(uh)-na. However it is usually pronounced Kath-REE-(uh)-na or Kath-REE-na, or Kat-REE-na/Kat-REE-(uh)-na.

It's sometimes spelled Catríona, which isn't correct.

A few more Irish names:
Beibhinn
Eilís
Eibhlín
Damhnait
Deirbhile
Mairéad
Caoimhe
Sadhbh
Róisín
Niamh
Neasa
Eithne
Eimear
Muireann

Honora was a traditionally used name in Ireland, often shortened to Nora. It's not Irish but an old fashioned name.

InionEile · 02/04/2016 05:15

What about Cáit* instead? It's basically Kate in Irish and has an old lady chic factor I think.

*Pronounced 'Kawtch' for any non-Gaeilgeoirí out there!