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what is Molly short for, if anything?

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BeautifulStars93 · 22/07/2015 10:05

We like Molly (opinions please)
Also does it have a long version or is not short for anything?

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reuset · 22/07/2015 22:05

Didn't I say people can use what they like? Oh yes, so I did: you can choose whatever you like as a short form nowadays.

But Molly is not from the name Margaret. That is not its etymology.

RiverTam · 22/07/2015 22:29

I mentioned my mother as well, you know. Abd several other people in this thread think the same. And I couldn't care less what the OED says, I understand exactly why Daisy is a nn of Margaret, but not why it's a pun.

You do understand about things changing and evolving over time, don't you?

nickelbarapasaurus · 22/07/2015 22:34

Okaaaaaaaay.
Molly is a perfectly acceptable etymological derivation of margaret and mary.
If mary can go mall then moll then molly, then so can margaret.

Mo is usually maureen, but no reason again why molly couldn't be used.

Quite frankly, nicknames can be tenuous so it really doesn't natter.

To answer your op, molly can be used on its own or as an abbreviation of otger names this mentioned.

Ps- molly is also in the penguin baby names book under margaret as well as mary.

reuset · 22/07/2015 22:39

This is getting a bit weird now. That's the Baby Name board for you Smile

I mentioned my mother as well, you know.

Ooh well, that makes all the difference Grin

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You couldn't care less what OED says? Oh dear, not much I can do about that. Though I was going to suggest you look up punning... there are other dictionaries you could use if OED inspires such wrath. Anyway, also search for 'punning' 'daisy' and 'margaret' if in doubt, plenty comes up. British Baby Names is well researched and reliable and she says:
"Marguerite could therefore be seen as both a translation for Margaret and Daisy in English. Margaret was a highly popular name from the Middle Ages and, because of this, there were often several within the same family. A variety of nicknames were needed to distinguish between them, and Daisy made a cleverly punning pet-name."

nickelbarapasaurus · 22/07/2015 22:39

nameberry.com/babyname/Margaret

Daisy isn't a pun. It's just that marguerite is french for daisy

reuset · 22/07/2015 22:52

Daisy has traditionally been considered a punning pet name for Margaret. Look it up, it is often so described by respected sources (not my mother Wink , but OED as already mentioned) In this case, a play on words, if you like, ambiguous as they aren't obviously connected to some people.

Why is the (ghastly) nameberry link relevant to your post? It mentions Daisy being the word for Marguerite, and Marguerite being French for Margaret, but that's only what I already said up thread.

reuset · 22/07/2015 22:55

Here's another
Source(s): The Oxford Names Companion, OUP (that's not the same edition dictionary I mentioned, it was Oxford First Names)
"Scottish Forenames" - Donald Whyte, FGH, FSG

Notes:

English, from the flower name, "day's eye".

Daisy is also used as a pet name for Margaret, thought to be a punning reference to the French name Marguerite which is both the equivalent of Margaret and French for the "daisy" flower.

CityDweller · 22/07/2015 23:00

I love it as a name! We'd use it if it wasn't already in the family.

reuset · 22/07/2015 23:01

From Poetics of Character 1700-1900

"The punning name Daisy/Days eye, resolves in a lullaby" etc etc

There are literally 1000s of similar examples of Daisy being a punning nick name (I realise it's also a name in its own right, just to add generally).

indiana7 · 23/07/2015 00:09

Molly is gorgeous, always strikes me as a very middle class class name, the Molly's I know are lovely (grown women now) one very arty type, the other is in a very acedemic position. They carry their names very well.

nuthatchlikesthemtoo · 23/07/2015 00:33

I wanted to just say that I like Molly. I like that you hear teenagers called Molly now. It was such an old name when I was a girl.

From Mary

Ipushedmygrannyaffabus · 23/07/2015 01:55

My aunt was Molly, short for Muriel

Quasilulu · 23/07/2015 02:51

My grandmother is known as Molly and her birth name was Louisa. ( loud bang as reset explodes)

Quasilulu · 23/07/2015 02:52

Beg pardon reuset. Bloody autocorrection

reuset · 23/07/2015 03:04
Grin

Though you can nick name whatever you like, for any name, it doesn't have to even make much sense.

almapudden · 23/07/2015 04:01

I think it should be short for Mollicent. Go on, OP, start a trend.

Donthackmenow · 23/07/2015 21:36

My great aunt was Molly, short for Kathleen (I know not why).

berryblueberry · 24/07/2015 01:12

Molybdenum?!
(a chemical element!) Grin

Seriously though, the only Molly I knew was just Molly. As was Molly Weasley from Harry Potter, I think

AGnu · 24/07/2015 01:21

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molly_(name)

reuset · 24/07/2015 06:45

I think you're missing the point (good source linking Wiki, by the way). Of course it can be a pet name for Margaret. That's not where it's from, though, AGnu. A 'proper' source would tell you that.

Molybdenum is the best yet Grin After Kathleen!

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