Kacpar

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I've just had an email announcement from a friend (her DD has just given birth).

Its Casper isn't it? They called the kid Casper but spelt it Kacpar. I'm going to do a bland congrats reply and not even mention it.

Fortunately, now when I eventually meet a baby Kacpar, I am well prepared.

Janine My first name is a made up version of an already made up name, last name is Irish... I'm fucked, aren't I? :o

Corporate You are right, my DS1 is already getting it with his name, my Caspar isn't though, it's seemingly becoming quite a normal popular name. I want to remove a letter from DS1' to make it easier on him. But if this person is in an area where it's common then there might not be so many problems.

My supervisor at uni was a Bernard.

For that spelling of Casper, you would have to be in an area where people Understood, though. In my Northern Mining Village, most people would probably look puzzled.

In the english language the only words with a soft 'c' sound are followed by a vowel sound.
It's completely understandable that unless you know the name already (I've never heard it) your first pronunciation would be kack-par. I presumed it was perhaps a middle eastern name or perhaps indian/Pakistani.
I think it's a very odd choice for a completely british couple. If you like Caspar call him Caspar!
It's just all a bit try hard for me.

No one is laughing are they? And what I said is that I personally would pick a name to fit the culture I lived in. That is what I would do. If the couple in question think choosing a name that causes confusion is a good idea and is naturally pronounced incorrectly in the country they live, that's their choice.

Also if you check the op this family don't even have polish links so why on earth they've chosen a spelling that will deliberately cause confusion is anyone's guess.

Most people pronounce names as they're said, so I would say Kacpar

No one is laughing are they?

Awful. I laughed out loud. Poor kid to go through life being called cack-parr.

You were saying?

Re: the rest of the thread. Good to see the stupidity in the baby names section is still alive and kicking.

I agree with Donna and Janine.

It's quite a big world out there.

I'll rephrase that then. I'm not laughing.

Bored of this now. It's a name that will be mispronounced frequently in this country and is an odd choice if you don't hav. Parents clearly not bothered. End of story.

Meant to say 'if you don't have polish links'

"In the english language the only words with a soft 'c' sound are followed by a vowel sound."

This ^^

"It's completely understandable that unless you know the name already your first pronunciation would be kack-par. I presumed it was perhaps a middle eastern name or perhaps indian/Pakistani."

I guessed it was probably Polish, but am with the others in thinking that it will get mispronounced and misspelt by people until they are told otherwise. Generally people faced with an unusual looking name will use the phonetic pronunciation, which in this case would be cack-parr.

Not everyone lives in the middle of a multi cultural melting pot and those that do have no right to be condescending towards those that don't.

I have a Polish name (and Polish "links") and I find there are so many Poles around now, people are getting used to our names.

Our local shop owner is a Kacper, have never heard anyone call him cackpar.

The cackpar-sayers are a bit xenophobic IMO and being deliberately obtuse.

Brave that's just a stupid comment. It is not xenophobic to state that I don't know how to pronounce all foreign names on first viewing.

Fuck sake, save your racist accusations for something actually racist. Obtuse right back at ya.

What words in English can people think of that have a hard c followed by a consonant?

Of all the words with a hard c in the middle biscuit and acute come to mind, whereas other words with a c are pronounced 's': illicit, incite, paucity,

A hard c is usually a ch as in archive. But then 'architect' has a ch and a hard c followed by a consonant .

Reading Kacpar phonetically I would 't assume a hard c at all!

cock?
cockerill?
clock?
knock?

lactose?
fructose?

action?
actor?

Although I can't think of a word that has a 'cp' in the spelling. I would assume it was a foreign spelling and check pronunciation as mentioned above.

secpar :

[ n ] a unit of astronomical length based on the distance from Earth at which stellar parallax is 1 second of arc ; equivalent to 3 . 262 light years

No idea how you pronounce that though.

I agree it's a bit try hard if the couple have no Polish links at all. But not exactly hard to pronounce once you are told. I would probably just have gone with the English version to avoid having to correct people. Although I suppose it depends where you live - maybe it's super well known in some areas. Personally I had never seen that name before.

If I saw the name Kacpar written down I would assume it was another version of Kaspar or Casper - and I would pronounce it accordingly.

And if I did pronounce it wrong the first time, I'd be corrected and know from then on. No big deal.

Am surprised that so many of you have an issue with this name!

In order of popularity in the UK 2013
Kacper- 335 babies
Casper- 160 babies
Caspar-55 babies
Kasper-64 babies
Kaspar-12 babies

Kacper is the 'normal' spelling in the UK.

Kacpar however I'll conceed is probably 'made up' but the pronunciation should be obvious to those who know the standard spelling (Kacper)

also sorry I obviously can't order names it should be
Kacper
Casper
Kasper
Caspar
Kaspar

Really cack-par? I don't live in London. I can tell its polish just looking at it. I would also assume Casper and ask. It's no harder than dawid or ewa. I ever worked out pieoter (or however it is spelt) is Peter in polish the first time I saw it. I found the surnames harder to say because I can't try to work out what's the English eqivalent is.