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Ellyse

38 replies

Bigbottomtwirl · 28/06/2014 23:03

What do you think of Ellyse?

And do you think Rose would be a nice middle name?

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Birdsgottafly · 05/07/2014 17:29

""Do you mean Elise?Please spell it correctly!""
Ellyse' is definitely an unusual spelling. ""

OP, if you like that spelling, use it.

It may not get MN approval, a lot of Hebrew spellings don't.

They also use that spelling in Australia.

The racism across this board is astounding.

madwomanbackintheattic · 05/07/2014 17:32

Not really racism, birds. Just cultural familiarity with middle England UK naming conventions. And an understanding that to step outside of those cultural conventions has to be understood to be a decision that might be misinterpreted as trying to be 'unique'.

No one made any links to any other cultures and disparaged the name as a direct result, hence your frothing about racism is a tad outré.

madwomanbackintheattic · 05/07/2014 17:34

You could substitute 'ignorance' for racism if you would determined to have a pop. That would work. HTH.

burgatroyd · 05/07/2014 17:48

Why would Elise get shortened to Ellie? I knew an Elise at school. I also know three Elizabeth's, never shortened.

So what if you want to use alternative spelling, unique spelling. Its OK!

badtime · 05/07/2014 20:55

birds, you took my quote out of context there. I was responding to someone who had said it wasn't an unusual spelling. I showed that Elise and Elyse were both more common, and specifically pointed out that I was not saying it was made up. Perhaps I should have said 'unusual in this country', but the fact that I explained I was using figures from England and Wales should have covered that.

How did you conclude that I'm racist from that?

As it happens, most of my more impassioned posts on the baby names threads have been when I get pissed off with people for not taking variant spellings or spellings from other countries into account and saying they are misspelled or made up or just wrong. People saying that they prefer a particular spelling doesn't bother me. But, you know, now I know that having a preference is racist... Hmm

Either way, shove your mealy-mouthed not-quite accusation where the sun does not shine.

badtime · 05/07/2014 21:02

Oh, and I didn't even say there was anything wrong with 'Ellyse'!

Birdsgottafly · 06/07/2014 10:43

""Not really racism, birds""

When you are telling other cultures that they aren't spelling names, "properly" and accusing other cultures of "making up spellings" because the French/German (as is usually used in the UK) is the correct and only acceptable way, it is.

I picked the names and spellings of my children's names to fit out cultural background, I've seen the acceptable and correct spellings that my family have used be slated on here.

Had the OP stated her cultural background, or are we all default white British on MN?

I checked out this topic because my DD is searching for a DD's name, when I dip in I see this a lot and also incorrect/ignorant statements made about names.

The funniest ones are "self proclaimed experts" who don't even realise that names such as Levi etc are real names.

badtime · 06/07/2014 12:14

But no response to me?

Could you explain to me why you implied I was racist because I said a less-common spelling of a name was unusual?

badtime · 06/07/2014 12:29

And FYI, if i google 'Ellyse', there are 'about 772,000' results (at least 161,000 of which are about Australian cricketer/footballer Ellyse Perry)

'Elise' has 'about 25,000,000' results; 'Elyse' has 'about 3,660,000'.

Please explain why it is incorrect to say that 'Ellyse' is more unusual than 'Elise' or 'Elyse'.

Poussay · 06/07/2014 12:45

Elise is so lovely

Great choice OP

madwomanbackintheattic · 06/07/2014 16:23

No. It's still ignorance, not racism.
But you are, of course, entitled to believe whatever it is you have got so het up about. Your belief doesn't make it a fact, but you can believe it does if you like. It's a free country.

madwomanbackintheattic · 06/07/2014 16:34

Just to capture the level of my 'racism', I asked a friend who happens to be visiting with her daughter from a huge Jewish community (I don't live in the UK anyway, as it happens, neither does she). She doesn't know anyone called Ellyse either.

And I've used a variant spelling myself for one out of three, as well as a name that no one had heard of at the time for another.

I can't get that excited about it, tbh. Fortunately (!) I have enough real issues to concern me than perceived slights where none existed.

PerksOfBeingNorthern · 06/07/2014 16:38

At school we have (amongst others)
Hollie and Holly
Ciaran/Keiran/Kieran
Isobel/Isabel/Isabelle
Connor/Conor
Reo/Rio
Giorgia/Georgia
Jack/Jak
Tiffany/Tiffannii
Mia/Mya/Miah
You get used to which children are spelt which way.
OP use the spelling you like. Ellyse/Elise is a lovely name.

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