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daheedsgirl · 16/04/2014 11:28

My husband is from Ireland and we live in Wales. We both love the name Aoibhinn Frances for a girl (Ay-veen) but I'm worried that she will spend the rest of her life spelling and having her name mispronounced! We also like Elin Frances. Any opinions and other name suggestions are appreciated! :-)

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Finnbheara · 16/04/2014 14:51

Should point out that my niece lives in England

squoosh · 16/04/2014 14:52

I'm not sure what 'biffy' is actually! I just think that arrangement of letters looks a bit unattractive.

badtime · 16/04/2014 14:57

'Eavan' is an estabished Anglicisation which is used in Ireland - so more like Finola or Maeve than Shevaun or Keeva.

There is a pretty well-known Irish poet called Eavan Boland.

scarletforya · 16/04/2014 15:13

Ahh I see! Grin

Callani · 16/04/2014 16:50

How would you pronounce Sabdh? Savy?

Callani · 16/04/2014 16:50

Oh my gosh, is it Saovy i.e. Sophie?

squoosh · 16/04/2014 16:52

It's pronounced Sive (rhymes with five)

squoosh · 16/04/2014 16:53

It's spelt Sadhbh.

InspirationFailed · 16/04/2014 16:57

One of mine has Ruaidri in his name. No one can spell it or pronounce it (I have to look the spelling up myself at times) in hindsight I should've just gone with the English spelling!

TheScience · 16/04/2014 16:58

Etain is lovely, I've not heard it before.

MrsJoeDolan · 16/04/2014 17:02

My niece is Aoibhinn - pronounced Ee-vin. I like it.

Finnbheara · 16/04/2014 17:37

Thanks Squoosh, I have seen it spelt in several different ways I deliberately chose an odd one but your spelling seems to make even less sense Easter Confused. It is a name I love though.

daheedsgirl · 16/04/2014 18:34

Étaín is an Irish heroine :-). Thank you for all your advice, husband likes sabdh and maeve too. My mum is Elisabeth so quite like Eilish too x

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mathanxiety · 16/04/2014 19:01

Sadhbh is always spelled Sadhbh.
The reason being that this is how you render the sound 'sive' (rhyming with five) in Irish. If it's spelled differently it is not Sadhbh/Sive.

Sadh = 'sigh', and bh = v. Together they make si(gh)ve.

Think of it this way - if 'Margaret' were spelled 'Mabgadet' it would not be Margaret.

The Sadhbh spelling makes complete sense in Irish, which is the language of the name, just as French spellings and pronunciations make sense according to the orthographic rules of French, ditto Welsh, German, Dutch, Swedish, Norwegian names, etc.

'Sabdh' would be 'Sab' with a redundant dh at the end.

daheedsgirl · 16/04/2014 19:05

My bad I spelt it wrong :-) x it's not a name I would pick even if other half likes it x

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mathanxiety · 16/04/2014 19:05

Eilis is nice. Eilish would be a mixed English/Irish spelling. The problem in Britain is the pronunciation 'eyelash'.

Maeve is a lovely name and easy to pronounce.

Aoibheann or Aoibhinn would definitely be pronounced with the long E at the start.

Please don't spell Sadhbh 'Sabdh' if you choose it. It is completely wrong.

Elin is gorgeous imo.

mathanxiety · 16/04/2014 19:06

x-post Smile

mathanxiety · 16/04/2014 19:07

Other Irish names that are relatively easy to pronounce:
Enda (a unisex name)
Dara (unisex)
Orla

FlipFantasia · 16/04/2014 19:09

@mathanxiety don't you mean 'sorshagate'? WinkGrin

mathanxiety · 16/04/2014 19:12
Grin
Treaclepot · 16/04/2014 19:15

We live in England and every year at school has a couple of irish girl names in. It is annoying for to have a name you have to spell and pronunce all the time (I have one!)

weeonion · 16/04/2014 19:24

I have a caoimhe and whilst it is becoming more popular - it hadn't been a problem or "disaster". It was one of the first things she would spell out for people.

When we once went for a nursery viewing, the ever so open minded manager said something along the lines of - you people and yr foreign names.. Why cant you just pick a nice simple name like Sophie or Emma?

Indeed. Could be because i am heaven forbid " foreign" a.k.a. Irish?

Sillylass79 · 16/04/2014 19:42

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squoosh · 16/04/2014 19:45

Yes Dara is unisex.

squoosh · 16/04/2014 19:46

Can also be spelt Daire/Darragh

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