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Alisvolatpropiis · 15/04/2014 22:47

Hâf as a middle name?

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cariadmawr · 15/04/2014 22:53

Lovely name had boys.though . You got first name yet ?

Alisvolatpropiis · 15/04/2014 22:56

I do! Not pregnant, just plotting Wink

I really like it as a first name but I'd grind my teeth to dust listening to people say Haff!

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cariadmawr · 15/04/2014 22:59

Know a Eli.and reallly like seren haf with ^on top of haf .

BlueStarsAtNight · 16/04/2014 01:49

As a non welsh MNer I'd say Haff, and think it was a boys name, sorry. Guess that's why you didn't ask for non-Welsh opinions :)

MoominAndMiniMoom · 16/04/2014 02:00

you will get Haff a lot, and its arguably the most popular Welsh middle name - like 'May' or 'Rose' is the probable equivalent.,

we considered Haf as a middle name for this one, but the popularity put us off.

Alisvolatpropiis · 16/04/2014 07:24

Yup, pretty much Blue.

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violetina · 16/04/2014 07:32

There is no circumflex on the 'a' by the way.

peppinagiro · 16/04/2014 09:27

It's pretty, but I agree with PP who said it's the 'May' or 'Rose' or 'Grace' of Welsh MNs. It's everywhere. And Seren Haf is such a standard combination now too - I've known two.

There's also no accent on the a. Just Haf.

cariadmawr · 16/04/2014 09:28

Dh who is strong welsh thinks like us op would.put
^ sorry closest could find on phone on top.of a .

peppinagiro · 16/04/2014 09:58

No, you definitely don't need an accent. It's a long vowel, because an unmarked (i.e no accent) stressed vowel is always long before b, ch, d, dd, g, f, ff, th, e.g. mab /m??b/ (son), hoff /ho?f/ (favourite), peth /pe??/ (thing). So you don't need a circumflex to tell you it's long, because it always is before an f.

With a name like 'Siân', you need the circumflex because before an 'n', vowels can be short or long, depending on the word. In this word, it's long - the circumflex tells you that.

MoominAndMiniMoom · 16/04/2014 10:35

we considered Haf for DD but the popularity is what put us off. other ones we considered were Fflur, Tesni, Lowri, Llinos, Mai, Cara. Went for Teagan in the end as her mn :)

Alisvolatpropiis · 16/04/2014 12:55

I'm just off to tell my friend whose first language (as with her entire family) is Welsh that her name is spelt incorrectly Smile.

I'll tell my Welsh speaking family too.

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Alisvolatpropiis · 16/04/2014 13:00

I don't so much mind the popularity as the first name will pretty unusual. I can see why it is the Welsh equivalent of Rose/May though, sits well after a large number of first names.

Plus if my hypothetical daughter ever moved to England I doubt they'll agree it's like Rose/May Grin

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mejon · 16/04/2014 13:00

I'm also first language Welsh (as are the rest of my family) and there is no ^ on the 'a' in Haf. It's also DD1's middle name as she was born in August Grin.

HexBramble · 16/04/2014 13:22

Agreed. No circumflex on the a.
Learnt English when I was 7, and now I teach Welsh as does DH.
Defo not â.

HexBramble · 16/04/2014 13:24

Some do include the circumflex on Haf, but that's categorically wrong Smile

Alisvolatpropiis · 16/04/2014 13:56

No circumflex will making typing it on a proper keyboard rather than a smartphone somewhat easier

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