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Amelie-Grace, Elsie-May & Gracie-May?

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haleyalannahxo · 02/03/2014 17:59

Normally I don't like hyphenated names at all, but these few are really growing on me. My style tends to be more like, vintage/cutesy, so the cutesy bit doesn't bother me.

For middle names, I would probably use:

Amelie-Grace Louisa
Gracie-May Isabella (or Isabelle)
Elsie-May Kathleen

What names would you use as middle names for Amelie-Grace, Elsie-May and Gracie-May? Which of those three do you like the best?

Thank you :) x

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tinyturtletim · 04/03/2014 16:00

Giving a child a double name is a sign of immaturity?

I wish I were still able to be immature. My elsie suits her name perfectly and always will. Anyone who casts a judgement on her based on a name is quite frankly a moron

JohnFarleysRuskin · 04/03/2014 16:20

I would assume that a person who gives their daughter a really cutesy-cutesy name has certain expectations - different from mine- of how girls should be.

I know that's probably wrong but that's what i assume.

EirikurNoromaour · 04/03/2014 16:30

I wouldn't judge a child based on her name but is judge the parents. I'm afraid I would judge an adult woman called Gracie-May and wonder why she persisted with such a cutesy little girl type name. I'd assume she was a bit vacuous to be honest.

EirikurNoromaour · 04/03/2014 16:33

It's like in miss congeniality. Grace = FBI agent. Gracie-Lou = beauty pageant contestant.

FruitSaladIsNotPudding · 04/03/2014 16:43

Gracie-Lou Freebush. Don't forget the Freebush.

EirikurNoromaour · 04/03/2014 16:49
Grin Women have a hard enough time being taken seriously in this world. I don't know why parents would choose to infantilise their adult daughters with little dolly names.
Rooners · 04/03/2014 16:56

I'm sorry, but I think hyphens are best reserved for other uses such as the compound noun.

OP have you ever looked at Netmums? I'm not directing you there because you aren't welcome here, but from what I know of it, people are far more polite, and also write in the same style as you seem to, and it might be a more pleasant experience all round to ask the people there.

JohnFarleysRuskin · 04/03/2014 16:56

What? You wouldn't name your kid after Emmy-Lou Lou Pankhurst? Or honey-Mae Clinton or janey-Rae Austin or Maria-ruby-Rae curie?

gnushoes · 04/03/2014 17:02

If in doubt, visualise the name on a stroppy teenager and then a woman working in a responsible job, say in a law court. She won't be a baby forever.

Chottie · 04/03/2014 17:11

I had a great-aunt May as a child. But her name was shortened from Mabel. :)

tinyturtletim · 04/03/2014 17:32

erik women have a hard time taken seriously?

Really?

florascotia · 04/03/2014 18:05

haley Don't go. I think the reason why so many people get so heated on this thread is because names matter. They really, really do. Any antipathy revealed is not personal to you. It touches on all sorts of deeper themes. Names reflect fashion, refer to history, signal chosen cultural, ethnic and religious affiliations, reveal educational backgrounds, current social/political/economic aspirations, and, particularly in an English context, say something about class.

I'm from Scotland where there is undoubtedly a class system, too, but it is to some extent overridden by a sense of national identity. Scottish parents have traditionally preferred Scottish names, though that is changing, fast. Interestingly, however, the most popular non-traditional names in Scotland are not quite the same as the most popular 'new' names in England. I am not sure why. At the same time, consciously 'heritage' names are also popular.

I am sure that Canada - some parts of which have close ties to Scotland - will have its own naming fashions and traditions. They won't be the same as in Scotland or the rest of the UK. It would be hard for outsiders to understand all the nuances of a Canadian choice of name. In the same way, some of the names you like have resonances over her that probably simply don't apply in Canada. It sounds horrid to say that a young woman with a 'cutesy' name might not be taken quite so seriously in her chosen profession over here in the UK, but I think it is probably true - at least until she's got established. (I don't think Cherie Blair's name did her any favours, for example.) It's a minor point; increasingly women are hired on merit. But I don't think that we've yet achieved equality, and anything that stands in the way is perhaps best avoided. (I know that that's a conformist argument, but it's loading a lot on any young person to expect them to have to do extra battles for a good cause.)

Sorry to go on so.

EirikurNoromaour · 04/03/2014 18:18

Yes tiny. Really.

Daykin · 04/03/2014 18:48

Women definitely sometimes have a hard time being taken seriously. Only today Mary Beard was misquoted as saying that women should lower their voices to be taken more seriously in broadcasting. (She actually said women are told to lower their voices)

timesonline.typepad.com/dons_life/2014/03/what-i-really-said-about-womens-voices.html

Mrsindecision · 04/03/2014 20:47

I wouldn't invest much time worrying about the OP florascotia! She is a 18 year old student studying at University - not even pregnant and not intending to ttc for a good while yet!

EirikurNoromaour · 04/03/2014 20:54

Hahaha omg
I was spot on then when I thought they were a sign of immaturity Wink

Tartanpaint · 04/03/2014 21:04

Adore all those names but without a hyphen

vichill · 04/03/2014 22:16

amelie grace is lovely. I agree with previous posters that the hyphen could lead to some judginess. for the sake of a little dash it's best not to subject her to it.

amelie is an historical European royal name so there's a bit of substance behind the cutesy

haleyalannahxo · 04/03/2014 23:10

eirikur - I'm the immature one? I'm not mocking an 18 year old on a forum. and I'm sorry 5 years isn't a 'good while'. Would you rather I lie to you all and just tell you I am pregnant then?

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TamerB · 04/03/2014 23:21

The names on their own are OK, and I really like Louisa and Isabella, but you really don't want to lumber the poor child with a hyphen for life.

haleyalannahxo · 04/03/2014 23:36

Right, I need to say all of this now.

I honestly didn't think it would be that big of a fucking deal to join a forum with a name board for opinions on the names I like. I certainly did not expect GROWN WOMEN to mock me because of my age, and treat me the way a few of you have.

Is it seriously such a crime to be 18 years old and having a name list? Guess what, I've had a proper one since I was NINE. On Nameberry (a naming site) there are girls who are 11 years old and seriously considering names - the majority of their users do not have children.

I'm sorry that I felt that a forum with mothers would be welcoming and friendly - not full of nasty women who are so immature that they feel the need to mock me/bully me over being 18 years old. It's actually disgusting that some of you do.

Just because I'm 18 doesn't mean you can treat me the way that some of you have done. I'm clearly not a child, I'm not an idiot, and I certainly don't need to be picked on by a bunch of adults.

How would you feel if YOUR child was 18 years old, liked names, but they were being mocked by other grown women for it? I definitely would NOT be impressed.

In particular, why should people ignore me/not bother because I am 18? You have no idea whether I have an SO to discuss names with, or what my background is, what's going on with me - nothing at all. All you know is that I'm not planning to have kids until I finish school. I'd say that's fairly responsible, wouldn't you?

I haven't been nasty, rude or anything of the sort to ANY of you on here, so I really don't see why a few of you feel the need to be like that towards me.

I'm deleting my account for the simple fact that, I was bullied by classmates my whole life until now, and I certainly do not need it from a bunch of strangers on a forum who are too closed-minded to realise that there are actually some people out there who simply just like names.

Goodbye.

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LittleBearPad · 04/03/2014 23:41

You aren't pregnant? What are you faff f'ing about on a baby names forum for?

FGS go out and have some bloody fun

and bin those names. They're absolutely dreadful

TamerB · 04/03/2014 23:43

I had no idea of your age. I would put anyone off a hyphened name- the child themselves will drop it by 8 yrs ( in most cases)

ramonaquimby · 04/03/2014 23:49

Absolutely. Lots of posters like to jump on and join in being nasty. Good for you. Good luck choosing names!

fideline · 04/03/2014 23:53

OP it is tragic to be frittering your carefree years away dreaming up complex strings of names for entirely notional children. Step away from the forum and get yourself a life.

Anyone who turned up here childless and not planning to ttc for five years would get a similarly robust and exasperated reaction from many posters, regardless of age.

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