I think Katie Hopkins may be a secret mumsnetter!

[Blondebrunette1]

I think its great having honest opinions on the baby names board but there is a huge difference between honest and rude/immature/nasty. No one is asking for you to tell them they have awful taste, improve their spelling (because you don't like the variation) or that they have named their previous children unkindly. What is wrong with "I don't really like those personally but how about..?" For all those that take pleasure being rude and unkind for no good reason I'd just like to say please reconsider your approach after you've given birth, what you are named means far less than how you conduct yourself & what's inside.

Is this a thread about a thread?

I am clueless to why people open threads asking if people like a particular name. Because we all have different and diverse tastes. So you will get some who love it, some who think its ok and some who grimace.

If people really dislike a name I'm considering I want to know and I want to know why so I can see whether the reason is something I hadn't considered and if it's worth rethinking the name or not! I don't want some wishy washy "not my style".

Good point BananaHammocks - don't want to invent a name that turns out to be a medication of a sexual disease.

I completely agree and I don't see any wrong in disliking a name or saying so when asked, what I can't stand is the unhelpful & nasty comments "you have bad taste." "Your names are awful", "chavy", etc. I dislike lots of suggestions I read but I'd never presume my opinion is more important than the OP, or anyone else and I've always been taught that "if you can't say anything nice/positive don't say anything at all." It's not a bad rule to live by IMO.

I'm not talking about the helpful comments pointing out things that could be potentially linked/associated just that out right unkind and belittling.

I think it's useful to have your fave name slated.

If you still love it after hearing the worst people can say, it's the right name for you.

Think this site is for different opinions though it would be a bit boring if we all agreed.

I agree that people should generally be polite (with possible exception AIBU).

But if you asking for an opinion on a name, you will get them. And they may not all be favourable. There is no definite defining lie between frank and rude. But if you think it has been crossed, report to MN who will delete posts that break guidelines.

If you want positive comments only, MN is not going to be the site for you.

I think op is on about the Louie thread where one rude mumsnetter said she spelt it wrong.

Again if you read what I said, I believe you can have an opinion without being rude. I have no problem with the majority of posts & I'm not saying people should just agree with each other for the sake of being nice, I just loathe it when people are outright rude. I still happily read the names and love the suggestions even when not to my taste but seriously having your class and intelligence questioned? I've been on mumsnet in the past and i love it but there are people out there who need to seriously reconsider their manners. I was irritated by the Louie post yes but it's not the only one, I've read lots I think is ott. I'm not trying to squash freedom of speech just simply remind people manners don't hurt.x

Apologises if I sounded abrupt in last reply I am a little passionate about manners can you tell lol. I am not disagreeing with any of the points made just speaking of the minority who go too far. PS I never rant on posts usually I must be hormonal ;-) x

I have learned a horrible lesson on these threads, do NOT click on a thread where you see your DCs name.

I completely agree with OP! I find quite a few on the baby names forum to be extremely rude, not really seen that anywhere else on MN and was a bit shocked! I like to read through the threads on here to get ideas for names but definitely have been put off discussing anything through reading the disgusting manners of some MNers. I agree that disagreeing and having opinions is completely fine and even necessary in this context but there is a difference between opinion and plain rudeness. I would hope people wouldn't speak like that in person to one another so why is it OK to do it on the internet?? I think the first thing I noticed was when someone had posted a name that they liked which was a variation on a spelling of a well known name and somebody had commented "sorry I don't recognise this name I think you may have made it up". How ridiculous. Because no name was ever invented was it? I seem to recall Shakespeare in particular making up plenty of names which are extremely popular today. And variations on name spelling has been ongoing for years. I'm glad to see somebody posting a thread about manners and glad to have had a chance to have a little rant about it as well! I very much hope these mothers/expectant mothers do not pass on their horrid attitudes to their children. There are always going to be stupid arrogant people in the world and the best thing we can do is just ignore them.

I've mostly found the Baby Names topic to be a pleasant and agreeable place. Can't imagine KH setting foot in there, or anywhere on MN tbh.

It's fucking pointless surveying the hive with "what do you think of ...?" if you only want naice answers.

You should phrase your post as "please tell me how witty, original and clever I am to have chosen the name Ariel-Fairy for my PFB".

Some names are shit. Some women come back later and admit that pregnancy hormones riddled their brains and made them make "peculiar choices".

We're only trying to help you Roland.

Also, it's probably useful to know if you're spelling a name incorrectly, in case you didn't know already. Then you can at least make an informed choice about whether you want to go with a yooneek spelling and possibly have it look like you're a bit dim.

I think most people agree that if a person asks for opinions on a name then it's to receive honest opinions, and to be expected that some of those are bound to be blunt and less flattering.
However there is a post referred to in this thread where the OP had used a more unusual spelling for the name of their existing child. It was clear this was not a name being debated or in any position to be changed. She just wanted future sibling suggestions. A number of people made nasty or 'superior' comments about the existing child's name. What purpose does that serve? It's rude, extremely ignorant, and makes the OP feel bad.

Oh ffs. The whole point of this section is to get unguarded impolite views. I agree that calling a name 'chavvy' is nasty, but I doubt I've traumatised anyone by saying that Jonah and Hector are dreadful names. Others like them and that's fine.

I think yes, get honest opinions but what gets me is how rude people can be after someone has said they have a DC with that name. Surely it could be worded less rudely. I, for one, was in tears after comments were made about my DCs name. Yes I wasn't the OP asking for the opinion but I said I liked the name as my DC was called it, but some of the following comments really were horrible. Bit of tact wouldn't have hurt.

I think theonlyoneiknow sums it up nicely: bit of tact wouldn't have hurt.

I think it'd be wrong for anyone to suggest that there aren't people on here who are very rude about peoples' naming choices. And also quite ignorant of the naming circumstances - and so incapable of accepting that maybe they're wrong

I want to give my daughter a Welsh name.
"Oh, but English people won't know how to pronounce it".
She'll be raised bilingually and the plan is for her to attend Welsh medium schools.
"But afterwards, English people won't know how to pronounce it".
Well that's ok, she can correct them.
"She'll find that really annoying".
Not really, I've always had to correct people about my name, it's nowhere near as time consuming or irritating as people make out".
"Well English people won't know what she's called"
If they're too ignorant to listen to her when she corrects them, then they're not the sort of people I'd want her spending time with.

Apparently any baby name has to be English, sound like it's come out of an 18th century children's book, and be Clementine.