ONS Baby Names 2012?

[KosherBacon]

Anybody know when they are going to publish the data on baby names for 2012? I remember they'd published it by this time last year.

[Spindelina]

The other pronunciation of the alternative spelling of DDs name is a completely different name - different pronunciation, origin in different languages with different meanings.

It's just not possible to disentangle it!

[Hawkmoth]

See I don't want to say what it is in case everyone loves it. Bit paranoid I think!

[ComtesseDeFrouFrou]

The comments on the BBC news article are ridiculous - totally bordering on Daily Fail territory. There's one guy who actually said that "fun" names are OK for girls, but bits should have more conservative names

And as for the person who said that non-royals should choose names more in keeping with their station in life, have a my friend. For hundreds of years royal names were really the only names around!

[KittenofDoom]

Talking of royal names, I'm disappointed not to see Frideswide or Sexburga.

[shoobidoo]

ds's name was used 12 times last year - interesting site, thanks for posting the link.

[Goldalocks]

Not read all of this thread but felt obliged to comment.

WithASpider- my daughter, named 6 years ago is called Ila. I can spell. I went to school (in Scotland) with several Islas before this name became fashionable. The only referent for Isla is a river. Islay/ Ila/ Ile the Scottish Island is spelled thus. My daughter was named after the island in the gaelic version following much consideration and research by my husband who incidentally can also spell and has a first class degree from oxbridge. As it happened we also then found out that this name has the meaning Earth in Sanskrit and refers to the goddess of Earth and speech. Whicj we thought was a lovely additional meaning

Pheobe - yes I agree the registrar should correct tjese parents. Otherwise please keep your culturally misinformed opinions to yourself. I am pleased my daughter has a name with many layers of meaning, which also pays tribite to my grandmother.

[Goldalocks]

Although perhaps cannot spell which and tribute!

[squoosh]

Good to know Goldalocks I'll remember that. Who'd have thought though that Isla would have become so super duper popular in such a short amount of time? Ten years ago that name would have been unheard of outside of Scotland.

[AmandaPandtheTantrumofDoom]

Goldalocks - Can I ask you a question though? It would be really hard for registrars to know who meant to call their child Ila and who got Isla wrong. Or whether Issac is a genuine variant somewhere for Isaac. If you think registrars should intervene on Pheobe, how would you have felt if the registrar had gently asked if you were sure about Ila? Would you have been offended? Because I think a lot of people who had put as much thought into the name as you obviously did would probably give them a mouthful!

I think they probably figure it's best just to keep out of things entirely!

[squoosh]

I wonder if it's ever the case that the registrar is the one who makes a mistake.

[UriGeller]

God that list is getting long! Lots of different spellings of the same phonetically sounding names.

My dd is one of 5 born given the same name ( an 'ordinary' name spelt correctly)

[KittenofDoom]

It's well-known to a lot of people through the actress Isla Blair, and singer Isla St Clair who was also a TV presenter and hostess on The Generation Game.

[Lanceolate]

Isla Fisher too.

[IShallCallYouSquishy]

Hmmm, DD's name getting far too popular. It's in the 400's now

Couldn't believe there were 18(?) baby boys called "Baby". I mean really?

[squoosh]

Maybe they were children who died before being registered?

[Lanceolate]

The DCs names are fine. My name is now in the top 150 and has three cre8tive spellings listed. Is it too late to change it?

[IShallCallYouSquishy]

Oh no sqoosh now I feel utterly horrible for being judgey

Didn't even think of that

[IShallCallYouSquishy]

Sorry... Squoosh. Typo!

[squoosh]

I'm not sure, there may well be some boys called Baby, but maybe in some very sad cases where for whatever reason a deceased child hasn't been given a name they might just be registered as Baby.

[Frikadellen]

As much as I don't care for oddly spelt names myself (I once came across as Jesykaah because her mother wanted it different)

Pheobe:
Pheobe is a feminine name of Greek origin and is said to mean ?One Who Glows?. It is also sometimes found as a pet form of the Greek name Euphemia which means ?Beautiful Silence?. This name is extremely rare in Britain, however its variant Phoebe is currently a popular name for girls.

It is actually a genuine name and it is not derived from the same as Phoebe
Phoebe or Phebe is a female given name (Ancient Greek: Φοίβη), feminine form of the male name Phoebus, meaning "bright and shining" deriving from Greek 'Phoebus' (Φοίβος).

I incidental have a Phoebe myself and she is not named after Friends but after JD Salingers the catcher in the rye. She is also 15 so just before the name got so very popular.

The problem with name spelling is that there are many variants from different countries and ways to go ahead with it. I for example had never heard of Ila as a name in its own right until I read it here.. Personally I still think Phoebe is a wonderful pretty name but I would rather it was down in the 450's and 1550's like her 2 sisters names..

[Goldalocks]

Amanda - no would not have been particularly offended though when we named her the name Isla was less used in England where we live so may not have been encountered so frequently by the registrar. I have subsequently realised just how often she is going to have to spell her name, and also become irrationally irritated when people spell it wrongly on birthday cards etc - obviously people would assume the more common spelling but for nursery friends eg this
occasionally happens when I think parents should know how to spell it as it is clearly visible on her coat peg (but then I am obsessive about both names and spellings so always look at nursery pegs!) Actually this happens quite infrequently.

Good question about whether registrar should question spelings though - I guess it is a bit of a minefield but I personally do not think I could register a Pheobe ( or a Rueben) without making a (tactful) comment. Issac I think may be a cultural variant not sure

[Frikadellen]

And I should know better than to copy from Wikipedia sorry about the many odd numbers

[Goldalocks]

Ok take back what I just said about Pheobe!

[squoosh]

Did not know that about Pheobe!

Parents of Pheobes are either

a) unable to spell Phoebe correctly
or
b) far more knowledgable than me.

[Frikadellen]

Squoosh I suspect it may be B for all bar the 1 person you dare suggest it to