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My name thread has been deleted - why????

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working9while5 · 12/02/2012 10:22

I posted a thread yesterday on the name "Aodh Ross". I am Irish with an O'Something name.

Aodh is a hard word for an English person to decode on sight which I fully appreciate, but it has a very easy pronunciation that would be easy for anyone to say- "A" as in capital A or "ay" as in "say/day/May" etc. It's also in the title of a very famous poem by Yeats (Aedh wishes for the cloths of heaven..

One of our reasons for choosing it is because it is also very easily anglicised if our son decides he doesn't want an Irish name - he could just as easily be Hugh. If he didn't like a Hugh O' name, he could go with Ross and we would be fine with that. So we have thought through this pronounceability issue etc.

^Aedh wishes for the Cloths of Heaven

HAD I the heavens? embroidered cloths,
Enwrought with golden and silver light,
The blue and the dim and the dark cloths
Of night and light and the half light,
I would spread the cloths under your feet:
But I, being poor, have only my dreams;
I have spread my dreams under your feet;
Tread softly because you tread on my dreams^

The feedback was short so far, only a few responses and most of them about the pronounceability of it etc as expected and how someone knew an Aodh and he suffered with it because people take the piss and he has to brace himself every time he says it etc. Someone else said that "Ay Ross" would be turned into "arse"? Confused. I said that as Ross would be a second, not used name, that I didn't imagine this would be an issue.

I said that I wasn't really interested in a discussion about the validity of using an Irish name per se because certainly, working in a multiethnic area myself, I find the majority of normal non-arsehole idiots just accept that a name is a cultural name and learn how to say it.

This is the second time I have posted an Irish name thread on MN, and to be honest I am a bit surprised at how people seem to find that wrt to Irish names it is reasonable to say that they would be taken the piss out of by adults in the workplace. Kids will be kids, but really? I might expect this somewhere else, but I thought that people on MN were generally supposed to be fairly intelligent/articulate sorts and wouldn't have expected it was crazy to have a very simple-to-say-if-a-bit-hard-to-say Irish name?

But anyway, why would it have been deleted? It seems odd.

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working9while5 · 12/02/2012 10:22

Hard to spell

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working9while5 · 12/02/2012 10:23

(And I managed to put the poem in the wrong paragraph... PHONES).

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ShowOfUmblestAnds · 12/02/2012 10:23

It hasn't been deleted at all. It's still there. Maybe you've accidentally hidden it?

working9while5 · 12/02/2012 10:24

Ah... how does hiding work? Can you unhide it? Sorry.. I am not very technical.

I did think it would be weird to delete it!

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belgo · 12/02/2012 10:24

here

ShowOfUmblestAnds · 12/02/2012 10:27

Somewhere in mymumsnet (link at top of page) there's a list of hidden threads. Go there and unhide it.

Thumbwitch · 12/02/2012 10:33

Go into Customise at the top of the page - in there is the Hidden threads and the opportunity to unHide them. Or you could follow the link belgo has provided and then Watch the thread if that's easier for you.
If you're posting off an iPhone or some other touchpaddy thing, it's too easy to accidentally Hide a thread.

I think that you overestimate the general maturity of the population as a whole if you think that there won't be adults who take the mickey out of names in the workplace. There are always people with a very puerile sense of humour in most workplaces, and they are the ones who will cause the problems and not see any issue with their "leg-pulling" or "teasing".

working9while5 · 12/02/2012 10:43

Thanks. Phones....

God, I've never worked anywhere where people would take the piss out of names in the workplace. Nor has dh, and we are in very different sectors. I can see a bit of banter among colleagues who know eachother and would have a laugh about anything, but on introduction? Really? That seems pretty rude!

I've had colleagues laugh about how I say things and not bothered about it one bit, but if I was introduced to someone in the workplace who laughed about how I said things because I'm Irish straight away without knowing me I would feel it was more mocking and less appropriate. Maybe that's just me!

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NatureAbhorsAHoover · 12/02/2012 16:36

I find the English do take the piss a bit with names... every nation is different (Australians just shorten EVERYTHING and add -o or -y to your name Smile. Hope you choose a name you love but tbh I'm still very confused with how you pronounce Aodh despite your explanation... is it pronounced Hugh or Ay?

working9while5 · 12/02/2012 17:34

Hugh is the English "version" but not how it is pronounced. As Irish people had to have an English name on their birth certs for many years, a lot of older people would have two names. I had an uncle Amhlaoibh (O-lee-uv) whose birth cert name was Humphrey, and one called Diarmuid whose birth cert name was Jeremiah. Some of them are really a bit whacky!

It sounds like Ay but Hugh is the English "version".

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BabyDubsEverywhere · 12/02/2012 22:11

Where do you live?

I am in the midlands, around here people say "ay" to mean "say it again" when something has been misheard.
Also around here 'Z's' are often added, I recon little Aodh would be "Azza" to his mates...

Of course if you can keep him away from the middle of England you should be fine :)

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