Evita?

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Slightly random one, but have always liked Vita as an nn for Victoria, and the possibilty of Evita instead has just occured to me! Eva Peron is a pretty good role model in some ways, no?!

Have I lost the plot/ would she get teased? Definitely prefer Vita as a nn rather than Eva/ Evie (lovely but everywhere)

I'd stick with Vita, which is lovely. Evita is just going to have people launching into song all the time, which would drive anyone bananas.

Ha nonono.

Vita short for Victoria is nice. I'd go with that.

I think the "don't cry for me" link is a bit too strong.

Vita lovely. Evita (wife of a dictator) not lovely.

annoyingly I just think of Madonna :\

Hmmm, I am fast going off this option!

Eva Peron was a tramp who with her husband looted Argentina while amassing a fortune for themselves. They made available thousands of blank Argentinian passports for the use of Nazi war criminals fleeing Europe and towards the end of the war gladly welcomed money and gold stolen by the Nazis which was ultimately laundered by Argentinian banks. Evita visited Europe in 1947 to co-ordinate the escape to South America of thousands of SS and other Nazis.

I would avoid the name.

Vita is lovely though...

Nice songs though...

What a SAD view on the world mathanxiety - she tried her best to improve the lot of the "ordinary" person.
She herself was exploited - also in a sexual manner and that no doubt coloured her view on life

She and Juan Peron ruined Argentina and installed fascists in the military.

My grandmother was born in Argentina and I have lots of relatives there who were ordinary people, all victims of the Peron regime, and they suffered under subsequent regimes there too, regimes that were propped up by the armed forces that the Perons had stuffed with Nazis. When the musical came out with the myth about improving the lot of the ordinary person (as if the Perons had been the Labour Party only better looking and more effective) and how much she 'cared' granny was shocked and chagrined to see such an icon of naked self interest, and Fascism, celebrated without any regard for the actual facts of history.

I didn't get that impression from the musical mathanxiety. I got the impression that while she was publicly playing robin hood, she was busy filling her own pockets.

I love Vita on its own - as in Vita Sackville-West - it means life/vitality etc and I think it's really beautiful. Suggested it to DH the other day but he wasn't having any of it... :(

Granny thought it could have gone much further and she turned off the radio whenever any of the songs came on. Her thoughts on the matter were that you can't write a musical with appealing tunes about flawed characters who can't believe they are loved for who they are ('You must love me') and who eventually die from cancer (oh the pathos) without making them seem human and eliciting sympathy.

OTOH, it sort of pleased her to think that some genuinely talented people were making money from Eva Peron and not the other way around.

I agree with Mathanxiety about Evita, but think Vita on its own is lovely.

Oh I'm so glad I'm not he only one who thinks Eva Peron was a dreadful woman who pranced round in Dior while her country starved. My grandfather (an Argentine) said he would dance on her grave if he ever returned to Argentina.

Mathanxiety.... My family had very similar experiences to yours.... Do you still have family in Argentina?

I have loads of rellies there and many in Uruguay and Brazil. One member of the family had a business venture in Ireland about 30 years ago and we got to know him and his family quite well. His DD (who lives in Europe now) and my sister keep in touch quite a bit. It was very important to this particular relative that his children got Irish passports and he arranged for them to be born in Ireland while he was working in the middle east.

Granny and one of her sisters were sent to Ireland during their teens but the rest of her siblings stayed in Argentina and their descendants would be third or fourth cousins (removed, etc) of mine. The original emigrants were my great grandfather and his brother, and my great grandmother.

Whereabouts in Argentina? My family are mostly in Cordoba with a couple of cousins in BA. Because my mum was born there and lived there until she was 10 she's still very close with her cousins and aunts and uncles, she goes every year for a month in March, and whenever I can afford it I try and go with her. Quite a few of the Argies have made it over here too, thanks to my mum's efforts we're still all close, which I love.

Sorry for the thread hijack OP.... Go for Eva or Vita, but not Evita IMO

Mine are concentrated in BA afaik but they all started out farming in Entre Rios province; Rosario in Santa Fe was the closest city.

My grandmother never returned to Argentina but my oldest uncle worked there briefly as an engineer (was aghast to find himself bumping into many German engineers in the course of his work as he had just been demobbed, having served under Montgomery as an Army engineer) and granny's BIL went there during the Irish war of independence to raise funds for the Irish government/IRA and promote the idea of Irish statehood -- granny's family connection opened many doors in the Irish emigre community. I would love to visit.

Evita reminds me of Madonna, Don't Cry For Me Argentina and, strangely, Ryvita.

Not the nicest name in the world IMO .

Vita is cute. She wouldn't have to share her name with anyone at nursery either, which is cool.

I'm with headfairy in that Evita would not be my choice. In LA -ito or -ita is the diminutive version. So it depends on your opinion on short versions rather than long versions of names! Naming your baby Evita rather than Eva would be the equivalent of naming your baby Mandy rather than Amanda.

Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but Playstation are launching a new computer console called Vita, which may mean more to your little one than any Evita connection.

Evita Rivita!