Rían?

[BarbieLovesKen]

Ok, so following the consenses on here, I think we are putting Iarlaith (Ear - La) on the back burner.

What do you think of Rían?

Prounounced REE - AN (we are Irish btw!

Will people end up calling him Ryan or prounouncing it Ryan? (Ryan is lovely, just not to our personal taste so would put us off this).

Thank you

From an English perspective, that sounds quite girly to me. Do you live in Ireland too? I presume that would affect the pronunciation issue.

Not overly keen, however.

I like it. You'd probably have to insist on the fada for it not to be pronounced Ryan.

Thanks to you both

Actually allie its a really good point as I really hadnt expected Rían to be thought of as girly but every Irish boy's name I've suggested on here (Iarlaigh (ear - la), Naoise (nee - sha)) have all been said to be "too girly" which was really off putting but now Im resigning myself to the fact that its the sound to the different nationality if that makes any sense and Im ok with that and feel better about the names. Think Im rambling but for e.g. I think Jude is a very feminine sounding name, but see on here it generally isnt regarded so (and most are in the UK)

mamsnet thanks, the fada thing drives me crazy and is hard to enforce - I have an Oisín and everyone (Irish too!!!) leave off the fada which basically means instead of "Ush - een" they are writing "ush-in" grr....

Think the fada will be impossible to enforce and you do run the risk of it always being pronounced Rian. How about Ruadhán?

Sorry should read "pronounced Ryan"

What you spell out sounds like a lovely Welsh girls' name -Rhian - that is pronounced in a similar way.

It doesn't make so much of a difference with Oisín, though, does it? Because there is nothing else it could be.

BTW I'm sure I've met a girl called Naoise.

you probably have! people started using it as a girl's name (which is slightly annoying as it is definately not, Naoise was a ancient Irish warrior who was in love with Deirdre of Sorrows).

True about Oisín - still annoys me though.

AAaaargh! boys name is driving me insane!!!

Hi, for what it's worth, though I'm in Scotland and not Ireland, around here it would probably be assumed to be a girl's name (along the lines of Rhian as Wow said) or assumed to be a variant spelling of ryan..but as I say, I'm not in Ireland and that's where you are so maybe doesn't make such a difference

sorry! not much help..

As an aside..
I remember you from a previous post Barbie..did you decide on Kate or Gabrielle/a for a girl? Sorry off the point but I am loving the name Kate these days even though we decided our pink name!

I take it you don't like Eoghan? Or Ruariadh? Or Padraig? Just a thought, am assuming you've thought of all of these so feel free to diss/ignore!!

Aw bless you for remembering!!! tis a definate Kate for us!!! (actually even though we have NO preference for a boy/ girl, Im sadly starting to cross fingers on a girl only because of this name carry on!!!)

nosey) what did you decide on in the end?

we decided on Beth (full name will be Elizabeth on bc) - love the sound and means alot to us for other reasons, as well as going nicely with dd's name imo!! And fwiw I know exactly what you mean - genuinely no pref re boy/girl but thot the same yday about knowing we love the name for a girl! But not due til june so sure we'll decide on team blue's name before then

Oh thats right! Beth/ Elizabeth - one of the most stunning names ever!!!! Im due in June too! how come you arent on our ante natal thread

I like all your name choices, and I don't see why you couldn't insist on the fada. My son has got an accent on one of his names and I am fussy about it- without it, the name is not spelt correctly. It's on his birth cert and official docs.

aw thanks Barbie..that's lovely to hear! esp as we aren't telling anyone else til baby is here! And i did once ages ago join the club but just didnt keep on checking in tbh..but maybe i'll pop back in there and see whats going on! Thanks!

Like WooOoo, I would think Rian was pn like the Welsh girl's name Rhian.

Barbie, my colleague and his dw have just had a little Rian ( sorry, can't do fadas on this computer) and so far, no-one has mispronounced it or mis-spelt it though I did wonder when I heard it, whether it might be spelt Riadhan )

Their first little boy is called Odhran which I think is lovely too.

Like others, I assumed it was a girl's name like Rhian when I clicked on your post.

Could you not choose an Irish name which English people will be able to pronounce, spell and know the gender of, eg Finbar, Fintan, Declan, even Seamus?

Why should she Greenwing? She lives in Ireland!

Chipmonkey. I read OP was Irish - but thought she was in England as concerned about what people would think about name and pronunciation.

PML - thanks chipmonkey actually, Greenwing, although I appreciate your comments and trying to help Im not going to choose a name for my Irish child that I dont particulary like so English people will be able to prounounce it etc..

(or did you think we were living in the UK, maybe?)

Oops sorry Greenwing - x posts! ah! thats fair enough - nope - both are Irish and living in Ireland.

Although, in fairness, Barbie, given the state of the country, maybe Greenwing is right. We may very well be sending all our children to other countries to work if things don't get any better.

Do you know something, Chipmonkey? myself and DH have been literally sitting down all evening and discussing the pros and cons of just (trying to!!!!) selling up and leaving the country. Theres just nothing here for our kids anymore - your right.

We have had that discussion too. We are lucky to both have jobs ( for now!) but are totally feeling the pinch with the new budget and can't honestly say both jobs are safe. Would hate to leave my Mum behind though. She lives alone and none of my siblings are nearby.