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Pip rejection

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LibbyR79 · 12/03/2024 14:13

Hi
I've recently been rejected pip, having scored just 4 points. I'm trying to work out whether to fight this or accept it. I could definitely do with the money and do struggle.
I suffer with ME and have done for 30 years. I do work but 5-10 hours minimum wage is all I can manage. I also have other health conditions, fibro, hashimotos, lipdema etc.
I have good and bad days. But rarely manage more than a few hours activity, don't drive far, unable to socialise much, or take part in stuff I'd like to, like clubs etc on a regular basis.
I often don't feel well enough to cook and regularly break things/burn myself . I need someone with me on an unfamiliar journey because of the extra concentration it takes and energy. I can't keep up with the house at all though realise that doesn't come under pip.
I need to rest regulary to not make my condition worse and as a result of often trying to do too much.
There are people far worse than me though. The person who assessed me wrote some complete lies and the decision maker said things that were simply his/her opinion but not true.
Anyway, am I maybe not bad enough to expect pip regardless of what they have said? I'd appreciate kind but honest opinions.
Thanks.

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CoffeeBeansGalore · 12/03/2024 14:18

Go on Youtube and look for Charlie Anderson. She has lots of videos regarding PiP, some specifically for mandatory reconsideration.

Nonametonight · 12/03/2024 14:28

I don't think anyone can say from what you've written in your post whether or not you'd be entitled to pip (would need details about eg how often youre unable to cook, how long you need to rest for after showering or dressing, how far you can walk without tiring yourself out...). But DWP decision making on pip claims is known for being very bad. Most people who appeal get the refusal overturned.

eatreadsleeprepeat · 12/03/2024 14:32

Did you complete the form yourself? If so I would suggest you contact CAB and ask them to help with mandatory reconsideration. PIP isn’t based on diagnosis but on how each person copes day to day. The points are awarded for certain things and in bands so getting experienced help to complete the form is good as the person is used to doing it and knows what descriptors to use. Very hard to fill in with something chronic with good and bad days and where any of the impact is on mental energy.

LibbyR79 · 12/03/2024 14:44

Thanks everyone. I struggle with all the things I mentioned to them more than half the time. I filled in the form myself but did take advice from the cab and ME association. I felt i gave enough info and proof to fulfill the criteria to get enough points for the standard amount. But I do question myself because I do have reasonable days and manage more than some would. Plus am just so used to being who I am, it's only recently that I had a bit of a break down realising how much I struggle and have come to being used to it and maybe not getting enough help. I don't want to take it unfairly though. I suppose there is no harm to ask for my case to be looked at again. Telling the truth is all that matters isn't it. I've heard people say only describe your bad days. But that doesn't feel right to me. Thanks for taking the time to reply.

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YetMoreNewBeginnings · 12/03/2024 14:46

Mandatory reconsideration and then Appeal it.

I feel people now, sadly, need to see all the way to appeal as just part of the process as so many are forced to go that far.

LibbyR79 · 12/03/2024 16:05

Thank you. Yes have heard this is the case. I think I will try and go through with a mandatory reconsideration at least.

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Babyroobs · 12/03/2024 16:11

In my experience ( I help with a lot of PIP forms) it's often really hard to get an award for these variable conditions, especially when working as it's hard to show how you cannot wash / dress yourself / move around when working, although obviously it depends on the type of work you do and whilst PIP can be claimed whilst working I do sometimes think it can go against you . I think for an MR you need to show what difficulties you have in relation to the descriptors and try to show why you can't do the activity reliably , within a reasonable time frame etc. Try to have a think about where you could score an extra four points and try to gain medical evidence specifically in relation to that activity. Sorry it's so hard. There's an awful lot of people at the moment trying to claim for long covid/ ME/ fibromyalgia type conditions and a lot are getting rejected and need to go to appeal.

SuzieSaturday · 12/03/2024 16:14

The best way to be successful is to submit evidence with your claim.
You need to get reports from the HCPs involved in your care on how your conditions affect you?

Submit the evidence as part of an appeal

Babyroobs · 12/03/2024 16:19

SuzieSaturday · 12/03/2024 16:14

The best way to be successful is to submit evidence with your claim.
You need to get reports from the HCPs involved in your care on how your conditions affect you?

Submit the evidence as part of an appeal

Totally agree with this and it needs to be specific, relevant evidence. form a health professional. So many people just sent nothing relevant in. I'm sure you did sent medical evidence in op but just reinforcing that it needs to be relevant.

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