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Doctors, nurses, patients - if ANYBODY can help me, you’ll literally save my soul.

40 replies

26goingon90 · 13/10/2022 21:14

Before I start, this is definitely going to be a long winded one but stay with me here if you can 😂

I’m absolutely desperate for some kind of answers, advice, similar experiences - literally anything to make me feel like I’m not going completely insane. I’ve just turned 27 last month, I have 4 children. During lockdown in 2020 with loads of spare time on my hands (as much spare time as you do with 3 children at the time) I decided use that time to lose some weight & get healthier and fitter. I managed to lose 2 stone, and felt amazing for it. I was so much more energetic, and for the next 2 years I would walk miles every day, always out and about with my kids and just enjoying life. Always been healthy. Only health problem was postpartum thyroiditis, resolved every time.

In April/May time this year I started to notice that my feet & legs were going really, really blue. When I was cold, when I was in the shower especially, or sometimes just randomly. This then spread to my hands. After about a month, I rang the GP (in England - NHS) feeling a bit stupid for even doing so as it seemed such a minor thing. The GP assured me it was NOT normal, and I was right to ring. He ran some blood tests. All fine.

But after this it was like it snowballed. It was like somebody had flicked a switch. I was suddenly struck down with this awful fatigue, and started to get joint pain & stiffness. Started in my knees (which have clicked & popped for years) but then kinda spread to my hips, lower back, shoulders. I started getting pins & needles and numbness in my hands and feet. I also felt just generally run down + crap. I couldn’t work it out but I knew I felt rough. I started to feel cold a lot, but had some increased sweating and was also very thirsty + hungry. My first thought was diabetes. Rang the GP again, he said they’d already tested for it. It had come back normal. But they were going to run some basic rheumatoid & inflammation tests. I started to look into this more. By this point, it all seemed to fit. I had worsening joint pains, tiredness, stiffness in the morning, and by this point also had some general weakness in my legs/arms. They were all clear. I was referred to rheumatology anyway.

I was given co-codamol and naproxen. This went on for a few months, gradually worsening until I ended up in urgent care twice because of pain so bad I couldn’t take a deep breath. Both times I was put on stronger painkillers & steroids temporarily. Back to the GP - a new one who thought I had ankylosing spondylitis. The gene test for that came back negative.

After another episode of horrific pain, I had another amazing doctor at my GP practice who ran every immunology test under the sun. All clear. In fact, everything perfect really except a borderline high ALT, borderline high but normal WBC count, and a low potassium. Thyroid antibodies to be expected.. At this point, I was okay as long as I was moving around. The less I moved, the worse I felt. I stiffened, I got sore, I was in pain. So I kept moving and it was awful, but bearable. I began sleeping on the sofa because night times were the worst. I tossed and turn in pain and discomfort.

Onward to my rheumatology appointment last month. He reviewed all my tests, and said they all looked fine. He said I had hyper-mobility, and would send me for a nuclear bone scan to see what was going on.

Now, during the last month or so the general stiffness/pain in joints has slightly improved. I still ache, and hurt but not unbearably. But the weakness has become horrific. My legs give way from under me and buckle, I have days where lifting a spoon can seem too much, I shake, and I have zero strength or grip whatsoever. I’ve also started to notice I feel less co-ordinated, more clumsy, just sometimes not on this planet at all. I’ve started to get weird dizzy spells where I just feel almost drunk. I don’t drink either by the way! I go light-heated, sweaty, shaky. My heart races and I feel dreadful. Last week I spent the whole night awake with the most horrific pain in my right shoulder that went all the way down my right leg. The pain was bad in my shoulder, but most worrying was the complete weakness in my leg. It kept giving way & buckling on me. I went my out of hours doctor, who gave me muscle relaxants for a ‘muscle spasm’ and sent me on my way.

The weakness in my leg got worse over the weak, and then for some reason I was struggling to go the toilet. I’ve always suffered from constipation mildly, however this was as if I’d lost the ability to go at all. I was sent from urgent care to A&E, who x-rayed my spine and ruled out cauda equina and sent me on my way. I disclosed to the doctor that I was worried it could be MS, so they put in a referral for a brain mri. Awaiting this. Amazing.. but I’m still poorly?! I’ve spent the last week feeling the worst I have ever felt in my life. Weak, shivery, poorly, just unable to function whatsoever.

I went to the pharmacy for laxatives, who redirected me to my doctor, who sent me BACK TO A&E.

Are you losing the will to live with my story yet? Cause this is my life at the moment. 😂😂 it’s a ball.

I went back to A&E who diagnosed me with faecal impaction and sent me on my way with laxatives. But not before they’d taken my bloods and put me in the waiting room as standard. 10 minutes later they are running in for me and putting me in a private room in emergency care, telling me I’m having a hypo and I need a glucose drip fast. My blood sugar was at 3. I’d an hour before eaten a bagel with Biscoff spread because I’d felt so weak & shaky.

So I’m now at a complete and utter loss. I’m stumped, seriously. I have some healthcare/medical experience, I work in science, I’ve worked in midwifery, nursing care. I’m not a doctor but I have some knowledge there. And I’m seriously just baffled by what is wrong with me. I know for a fact I don’t have fibromyalgia. That’s all I do know. But I’ve cycled between RA, lupus, axial spondyloarthritis, diabetes, MS, ehlers-danlos. I just don’t have a clue what is wrong with me and it is completely ruining my life.

I have days where I can’t function, I crawl through the day most days. Then I have days where I think - mind over matter, I WILL get better. And I’ll go to work, or take my kids out for the day, have an amazing day. Then the next day I feel like I’ve been hit by a bus. It’s impacting my relationship, my parenting, my job, my life. I don’t know if I need a rheumatologist, a neurologist, an endocrinologist. My GP don’t seem to want to help unless I beg or hound them. I understand the pressures GPs are under before anybody says otherwise, but mine really have fallen short with me quite a few times. But I also, I understand that they seem at a loss as to what to do anymore. If anybody could help me, it would mean the world & more ♥️

OP posts:
Farmhouse1234 · 13/10/2022 21:20

some of your symptoms (pain stiffness) sound like arthritis - but the rest don’t sound like my experience of AS.
not likely to be helpful I know. Really hope the MRI sheds some light on what’s up. Of course there may be more than one thing going on for you.

silverclock222 · 13/10/2022 21:29

Definitely sounds like an I inflammatory condition however if you have one you normally have others. Have you had a colonoscopy? Crohns doesn't always manifest in the bowels it can affect the joints too. Also consider pernicious anemia? Not sure why you say its definitely not fibro as technically the only way to diagnose it is to rule everything else.

cataline · 13/10/2022 21:37

How do you know for sure it's not fibro?

I've just finally been diagnosed with this after everything else has been ruled out.

Very similar symptoms to yours culminating in me being almost completely incapacitated for several months earlier in the year - pain and fatigue off the scale and I was like a zombie.

I'm feeling much improved now although still nowhere near the active, outgoing pain-free person I was a year ago.

I've also started HRT, just in case it was the menopause causing or worsening some symptoms and that does seem to have improved energy levels and mood a little. Amitryptiline is helping me sleep too.

I hope you get some answers soon.

pocketvenuss · 13/10/2022 21:42

Why do you say it's definitely not Fibromyalgia?

SizzlestheSausageDog · 13/10/2022 21:45

Could it be a mitochondrial disorder or another genetic/enzyme deficiency? They can appear in adults. Sounds really rough. Sending hugs!

MmedeGouge · 13/10/2022 21:54

Is your B12 level within a normal range?
Read up on it. If you haven’t already.
My sister improved enormously once she started to get regular injections. She was border line low for years and only recently managed to get the injections,
She had some symptoms in common with you.
I hope you find some answers.

OverArmour · 13/10/2022 22:01

Long shot but may be worth mentioning Addisons.

Floralnomad · 13/10/2022 22:08

It’s not how I presented with Addisons but if you’ve not had one it may be worth getting a 9am cortisol blood done just to eliminate it as frankly I felt like utter shit and nearly died twice before I was diagnosed .

AuntieEmm · 13/10/2022 22:10

Two suggestions, both auto immune. Polymyalgia rheumatica could explain the pains in knees, hips and shoulders and Addisons Disease could explain the rest.
Ask endocrinologist for tests for both.
Good luck

IceFemonLanta · 13/10/2022 22:14

I have ME (plus fibromyalgia & Rheumatoid Arthritis)
It sounds a lot like ME, especially the bit you describe being able to do things one day & feeling like being hit by a bus the next. It's called Post Exertional Malaise and is one of the main diagnostic criteria for ME
The pain you are experiencing is very much like my Fibro pain.
Not being able to breathe & pain in ribs and chest could possibly be Costochondritis, another Fibro symptom
What stands out is all your blood tests are fine, that's exactly what happens with both Fibro & ME. Consequently it's why a lot of medical professionals still don't believe in these conditions or the utter severity of symptoms & devastating effect it has on your life.
I'm so sorry you are going through all this & hope that you are able to get a diagnosis soon, whatever is causing it Flowers

Toddlerteaplease · 13/10/2022 22:14

Sounds similar to MS. So good that you have a brain scan booked.

LookUponMyWorks · 13/10/2022 22:16

If you have hypermobility this often goes hand in hand with dysautonomia which can present in a variety of ways that sound familiar from what you're describing. Also, counter-intuitively, hypermobility can cause intense stiffness/spasms which are very painful.

Have a look at ehlers-danlos.org and dysautonomia international.org or perhaps potsuk.org too.

poppymaewrite · 13/10/2022 22:29

I think it’s interesting that shortly before these problems, you had changed your diet. I think it’s the way you’re eating that’s making you sick.

What changed? How do you eat now? Are you eating more meat/chicken etc than before? The consumption of animal products is strongly linked to autoimmunity and poor health outcomes. Consider eating more plant based or vegan food.

Don’t rule it out. I had debilitating health problems before I went vegan, and my only regret is not doing it sooner.

Stickmansmum · 13/10/2022 22:39

Did you get Covid? I ask because my friends child sounds like you, and sorry to say but a worse version, and all the docs can say is ‘post Covid syndrome’ which seems to have triggered an autoimmune/ME type presentation.

Hes had IVIG treatment, usually used for MS, and it was a punt by the docs but he had a miraculous but unfortunately brief recovery.

Not sure if it’s worth exploring the possibility of a Covid trigger to all this. Don’t think it will get you anywhere even if it was that. But that treatment might be worth exploring if the docs do agree that you have some undiagnosable autoimmune disorder.

ForeverTired89 · 16/10/2022 21:51

I had very similar symptoms and a random blood test showed my blood sugar very low (2.8) even though I’d literally just eaten. Turned out to be coeliac disease.. all my other weird symptoms were from vitamin deficiencies cause by the coeliac.

20DigitCombination · 18/10/2022 20:25

Sorry to hear what you're going through.
Did your blood tests show any abnormal levels at all? Did they do CRP, ANA, NMO and ESR? After ruling out most of the obvious causes, I wonder if the MRI will show anything neurological or if it could be a combination of 2 or more conditions?

26goingon90 · 20/10/2022 20:34

Firstly, thank you from the bottom of my heart for everybody who has taken the time to not only read but reply to my post ♥️

All my ANA, ESR, dsDNA, antibodies to CCP were negative. However this was a few months ago, and from what I have read it can change.

I can’t even tell you how much it means to me that you’ve all replied to my post - the advice and information you’ve given me is absolutely invaluable and I appreciate it so much. Makes me feel much less alone at a really crap time.
Just as an update if it offers anything more - things are finally starting to show in my bloods at long last.

Awaiting speaking to my GP/rheumatologist to discuss but my blood test from last week showed:
CRP of 21 (previously 0.3 consistently)
Raised ALT & alkaline phosphatase
Low WBC & low neutrophils
Borderline red blood cell count & haemoglobin

Not sure if that helps anyone, but I’m praying that they can find some answers for me now.

Thank you, you truly beautiful people ♥️♥️

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20DigitCombination · 22/10/2022 08:03

Just a thought - do you have any idea when your MRI will be? Could you afford to go private (just for the scan)?

karmalama · 22/10/2022 08:08

Sorry vet not doctor but my first thought was addisons
It's a waxy wany one, hard to diagnose unless you look for it and in dogs is called the great imitator as has so many presentations.
Certainly worth them looking if they haven't already.

Straysocks · 22/10/2022 08:12

The first part of your OP with the blueness of hands and feet after the shower made me think of POTS, which I understand is circulatory but often present in people with Crohns/Eosinophlic Oesophogitis. I can see how everything has snowballed since that point. I really do wish you all the luck is getting a diagnosis and recovery.

sashh · 22/10/2022 08:24

There is a possibility there is more than one thing happening.

I was diagnosed with arthritis and a few months later with an underactive thyroid. The underactive thyroid meant I was not getting the correct pain relief. I was 26.

Sometimes it is just a matter of ruling out things one at a time.

Things I do for pain include taking the prescribed drugs but also the use of heat and cold - cold reduces welling, heat reduces stiffness.

I have a tens machine.

I also have a supply of chamomile tea, it has anti inflammatory properties but also can help with sleep.

I know it is horrible to be in this situation. Although you don't have a diagnosis could you get a referral to a pain clinic?

TootMootZoot · 22/10/2022 08:30

No advice but lots of sympathy! I hope you have rl help with the kids.

Shannith · 22/10/2022 08:35

Sounds a lot like my mothers MS

LiveintheNow · 22/10/2022 08:36

Isn't your hands going blue Raynauld's syndrome? Also what thyroid antibodies do you have? Thyroid affects every cell in your body so it may be you need treatment with levothyroxine. Any other autoimmune diseases in the family?

FloorCushion · 22/10/2022 09:00

It’s good that you are on the waiting list for an MRI. The results from this will help with the decision for you to go via the rheumatology/endocrinology or neurology referral pathway.
You have a complex history which needs a specialist medic going over with a fine tooth comb. I’m sorry that your GP is not being helpful but really they are the clinician who, with full oversight of your bloods and history can help signpost best as to which clinical speciality route you need to go down.
If you’ve got money I would advise you go privately for your consultant appointment.